more power.

[swampdank]

anybody have any advice on how to run conduit and wire for a new circuit to run another lamp? my area has only two circuits and they are both maxed out. not to mention that they are the old fuse type and not breakers.

i need to figure out a way to run some exterior power from the powerbox on one side of the building to the other side. i would like to have a breakerbox inside that i can use as a base of operations ya know.

has anybody done this or something similar? basically i guess im going to run some conduit outside, around to the room that i use and through the wall to an outlet or two.

i dont want to electricute myself or start a fire. but i cant call a professional because i have ladies blooming right now.

please help. i really want to be able to run this other lamp and double my yields.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

what your proposing isnt cheap, and isnt too easy. it took me a couple day(probably 6 or 7 hours) to get this run in.

depending on the distance u need to go you can go with plastic, or metal(both pipe and flex-coil) big cable is extra hard to get through... i actualy pulled the cable through while my pipe was still on the ground. long runs u need to pull the cable trhough... section by section. depending on your requirements.. sounds like a 10 awg run might fix your needs.. think thats good for 5k+/-...
id go with 3/4 or 1" just so you have room if u need. you might want to run big cable incase you plan to expand in the future. if your not going to then id go with small, because copper isnt cheap. 45' of #6 set me back about 2 bills.

you can just tap the feed into a subpanel





you'll also need to get your wire into a circuit breaker. u UNPLUGED my house a/c and used that breaker for my room, ill need to consolidate later and add more breakers to get the a/c back online.

 

[Aaronponic]

If you are not smart on electrical work I highly recommend you find an electrician you can trust, or get one to run most of the work, and simply bring it into the room yourself.

 

[PharmaCan]

DIGITALHIPPY - Nice looking installation. Is the #10 wire carrying your load ok? I just installed a sub-panel in my garage last week and I used #4 for a 3' run. LOL

Swampdank - you have a couple of issues that are probably way over your head. First, you are going to need to install a disconnect/breaker for your new sub-panel (breaker box inside). This can be problematic with an old fuse installation. Then you are going to have to get your power to the other side of the house. This can be done by going up and thru the attic, around the house with conduit (butt ugly) or underground with direct bury cable. It sounds like you are talking about a fairly long run, so you'll need some good size wire. If copper is too expensive, check out aluminum cable. (Don't try aluminum on your own - you need an electrician to make the connections properly.) Once the power is to the other side of the house, installing your new sub-panel is a relative piece of cake.

If I were in your shoes, I'd tell an electrician that you need a hefty power supply for a future for a welder, spa, whatever on the other side of your house and have Sparky bring power over there and put it into an empty box which you have mounted on the outside wall directly outside from where you want your inside sub-panel to be. Then it will be easy to punch the power thru to the inside and install your new sub-panel.

PC

 

[swampdank]

thanks fellas. from the sound of things, i might very well be in over my head.
i like the idea of telling the electrician that i want to put in a spa.

D.H.: thats a nice setup you got there bro. thats pretty much what i want to do. i am going to try to hide it as well as i can.

aaronponic: i agree. LOL!

pharmacan: well, i want the cicuit to be independent of the fused circuits alltogether. i dont think the wiring can take much more current. i guess i gotta save my pennies and get that long azz piece of copper. thanks for helping man.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

thanks fellas. from the sound of things, i might very well be in over my head.
i like the idea of telling the electrician that i want to put in a spa.

D.H.: thats a nice setup you got there bro. thats pretty much what i want to do. i am going to try to hide it as well as i can.

aaronponic: i agree. LOL!

pharmacan: well, i want the cicuit to be independent of the fused circuits alltogether. i dont think the wiring can take much more current. i guess i gotta save my pennies and get that long azz piece of copper. thanks for helping man.

thats cool... if you see this pic

you can take that end off and pull wire through, you can use a vacuume to pull string with a 'flyer' at the end then firmly secure the string to pull through.... section by section...
i also own a 50' steel "FISH" its a took fo the trade to pull with you might want to invest in one.. only like 18$...(HD) i got a greenlee...( http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100117833 )
its worth it.
id measre it a few times and vision it in your head for a while before you do it.
btw... this is just about up to code, so there will be no problems from the power co.
now if you dont fix that hole there might be issues.

TURN POWER OFF BEFORE DRILLING NEAR THE POWER BOX incease you hit a cable after getting through.

i needed to drill like 15 or 20 holes with a masonary bit to get a hole to punch out. essentialy you want to make the stucco like a Perfferated paper holes every 1/2 inch then beat it iin with a few hammer strokes.

#10 copper is about 40-60$ a roll.. (25-50ft?)last i remember.

PharmaCan
i used #6 if you read my post.
it was rough to get through

 

[PharmaCan]

PharmaCan
i used #6 if you read my post.
it was rough to get through

LOL - I guess I should learn to read better. Yeah - #6 in 3/4" conduit would be tight.

PC

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

LOL - I guess I should learn to read better. Yeah - #6 in 3/4" conduit would be tight.

PC

ive been pulling phone, network and optical cables for years. this is my first throw at elec. i should have doen 1" or 1 1/2" in retrospect.i originaly wanted to do a #2 run but that was going to cost me close to a grand in cable alone... #2 is about 5-6$ a ft at HD. and thats only one strand, 45x3x6=$810
but aftr running the #6 i figured the #2 would have been a bitch and a half!

 

[PharmaCan]

pharmacan: well, i want the cicuit to be independent of the fused circuits alltogether. i dont think the wiring can take much more current. i guess i gotta save my pennies and get that long azz piece of copper. thanks for helping man.

Read "First" LOL. The disconnect/breaker goes at your power source (i.e. your existing panel) and bypasses the fuse box.

PC

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

you will most likely need to remove a breaker from your box, and replace it with a bigger ones for your new run. 15->40 or 20->60
or condence 2 single width breakers into a sigle width double breaker. so ull' have room for the new 40, 50a breaker...

 

[fumancu]

Hes got fuses not breakers.If he had the money he could have an electrition come in.take out the old fuse panel replace with a new breaker panel.That wouldnt raise any questions just wanting to upgrade.