Mom, Whats dad doing?

[Guest]

Simple question, Doubt thers a simple question, but i'll be keepin them fingers crossed!


When creating a hybrid, What charactistics are the mother and father most prominet/dominet in passing on.

For example. Mom brings, floweing time, scent, taste and smell,
While Dad Brings - Growth pattern and potency level.

Now while i know things may not be the same in every case, i think i remeber hearing a breeder state something along thease lines of being able to count on the father to change certin things in a hybrid, and count on a mother when looking for a diffrent outcome. Hence why WWxBB is diffrent then BBxWW.

 

[The Dopest]

K+... oh wait its reputation over here

 

[Octavian]

Simple question, Doubt thers a simple question, but i'll be keepin them fingers crossed!


When creating a hybrid, What charactistics are the mother and father most prominet/dominet in passing on.

For example. Mom brings, floweing time, scent, taste and smell,
While Dad Brings - Growth pattern and potency level.

Now while i know things may not be the same in every case, i think i remeber hearing a breeder state something along thease lines of being able to count on the father to change certin things in a hybrid, and count on a mother when looking for a diffrent outcome. Hence why WWxBB is diffrent then BBxWW.

Don't believe the hype.

In breeding, both the father and the mother contribute equally. To think otherwise is a gross simplification of an extremely complex system.

The idea that the gender determines traits that are passed on genetically, is false, except in rarer sex-linked traits.

Breeding our plant is no different from breeding, for example, corn. There is alot of excellent breeding information out there, and the concepts transfer well if you are willing to do the research.

If straying outside the bounds of documentation of our chosen plant frightens you (it shouldn't), Robert Connell Clarke's Marijuana Botany has an excellent chapter on breeding, and does not mention that which you speak.

I applaud your efforts to increase your knowledge.

I remain,

Octavian

 

[DocLeaf]

parental genes may be dominant (overtly obvious) or recessive (covertly hidden) in lineage, for a generation or seven.

all sort of things might happen in between,,, then again they might not :wink:

peace dLeaf

 

[Brastaman]

I think that determinations of dominance and recessiveness can only be made by observing the outcomes of your crosses. The more seed you have to choose from the greater the variation and most all of the possible combinations should reveal themselves. It is imperative that desirable characteristics are not the result of environmental conditions.

if you create a goal for your breeding program and select and cross accordingly, there should be great results.

remember, WWxBB can be different than WWxBB also;

 

[KingRalph]

someone post the diagram. which is not 100% with cannabis. biology folks.

 

[Guest]

thanks everyone! i love being able to ask an intelligent question and get even more inteligent awncers.

Onward with the quest!

Any more opinions?

 

[Guest]

Octav - I've done sooo much reading to be able to grow my plants like i have, now i just wanna make some cross's without feeling like i'm just some pollen chucker.

Like Brastaman said i have a point in breeding and thats to cross strains the best i can and with as much BASIC knowledge as i can handle, i started to read that mj botony when i was 15-16 .. yea right. mabie ill give it a shot next summer, after i take bio in college this fall.

 

[motaco]

males for growth structure, smell carries so thats extremely important, finishing time, and resin production.


but more importantly the problem is unpredictability. at best you have an estimated guess at how a cross will turn out. even as a professional breeder.

 

[DocLeaf]

but more importantly the problem is unpredictability. at best you have an estimated guess at how a cross will turn out.

true says...

for example: our poly-hybrid cross between 'Northern Light' (NL) and 'Sensi Star' (SS) is showing some very funny results in lineage.

Flowering period:

Our NL mother took 65 days to mature. our SS male under 65 days.
In lineage, ALL progeny (NLxSS) take at least 70-77days to fully mature.
It would thus seem that recessive characteristics in both parents (NL and SS) are once again coming into the forefront. (Thai hereditary in the NL,,, who knows what in the SS).

peace dLeaf

 

[Guest]

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[guineapig]

Yes so many genes are responsible for even one single trait in plants......so it is a bit
of an oversimplification....

But it seems to me that the floral morphology (the way the flowers are arranged along
the axis of the stem) and the individual leaf characteristics can be traced back to
either one or the other parent plant......

Overall resin content and character, however, seems to be more determined by the
specific environmental factors under which the plant was grown such as overall
humidity, wind, the amount of certain light spectra, and possibly brand of nutrients...

This is just my general opinion on the situation based on available hybrid analysis....

kind regards from the guineapig

 

[Guest]

And i thought all ya had was that Welcome dance, Jp With ya, Thanks for your input!