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Moisture Sensor & Automation

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Kiva

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Im curious if you got something working or if you fell victim to hvacguys advice? He's mainly upset because the products don't have certain logos on the packaging? But they work and have not started any fires or made any hydro stores not carry them.

I am managing moisture content with my SmartBee Controllers Water Content Sensor. I just started using this system and I love it. here is my first grow using them

https://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalnoteid=15103#comment15103
 
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Kiva said:
Im curious if you got something working or if you fell victim to hvacguys advice? He's mainly upset because the products don't have certain logos on the packaging? But they work and have not started any fires or made any hydro stores not carry them.

I am managing moisture content with my SmartBee Controllers Water Content Sensor. I just started using this system and I love it. here is my first grow using them

https://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalnoteid=15103#comment15103
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Are you seriously advocating that a product is safe because it hasen't started a fire yet?

Those "certain logos" are standard certification intended to maintain a level of safety in electrical and other products. The fact you appear to think they're just fancy stickers is alarming to say the least.

Most grow stores will gladly sell you a 1000w set up and a cheapo dial timer, despite many growers reporting melted/burnt timers.

Perhaps you want to rethink a few things before dispensing advice.

As well, one begins to wonder why SmartBee is referenced in almost every one of your posts. Odd, eh? Perhaps it's just coincidence.
 
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Kiva

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are you implying that I would risk having a grow in my house to promote smartbee products...I think not. I wish I worked for them maybe I would have got a sweet deal on the price hahaha. anyway as to your other comments

It is true that I am totally wet behind the ears and probably should not give advice to anyone. However with that said I did tons of research before pulling the trigger on which system I chose. That coincidentally landed me in the threads which discuss automation since I come here for good advice and wanted to see what people are using. I am new to all of this so maybe my enthusiasm for a product I chose which is doing everything it promised is what you are reading into.

I agree that certifications are a good indicator towards a safer product. But I also know that with new technology comes advantages that I could chose to incorporate into my grow scheme or not. Now I doubt everyone on this site is using equipment that has every cert available. Or are doing things according to what safety building codes require. We are all DIYers. Shit just some of the stuff I've seen people McGuyver on this site alone should have you more worried than a product that people are using. Anyway I've been using the system for a little while and my house and everything I hold dear in it has not burnt down or caused me any emergency.

For the record. I have no problem taking advice from people who have TRIED something and shared negative results so that others don't have to go through the same shit. It's the ones who shit talk on something without ever giving it a try that I find defeating the whole purpose of this site which is to get information we otherwise didn't have.
 
Mikell

Mikell

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Product reviews are great but if there's a whisper of controversy or point of argument it'll crop up. Your comments are more than welcome, regardless of experience. Everything contributes to the whole.

I've stepped on a few toes as a result of overenthusiasm (or pick one of fifty other excuses) more than once myself.

hvacguy (autocorrect renamed you havoc guy) is a well regarded contributor and from what I can see (I don't know him personally) a professional engineer. This will become apparent the longer you are here.

I jumped the gun accusing you of working as a rep though it does pop up frequently.

The half assed McGyver style setups are what many here are trying to change. Low standards among growers is also why some companies choose to produce products that wouldn't cut it mainstream. At hilarious mark ups it almost goes without saying (generally speaking, I'm not well acquainted with the current topic).

Not much of a welcome but then I'm not on the welcome committee.

See you around the jungle

Cheers
 
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hvac guy

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I also have four years or Electronics Engineering. The smartbee is nothing special, OTS technology was been around to monitor and datalog any sensor. We'll see when one of the cheap components used in the smartbee fails.

hvacguy (autocorrect renamed you havoc guy) is a well regarded contributor and from what I can see (I don't know him personally) a professional tradesman. This will become apparent the longer you are here.
 
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queequeg152

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what you want is a soil tensiometer tailored to your soils bulk density and porosity, with a vacuum transducer.

its simple, somewhat cheap, and widely in use in vinyards golf courses etc.

resistive moisture sensors are fucking terrible, dont even bother.

i know nothing about this queen bee system, but be wary if its only soil moisture sensor packages are resistive types.

irrometer makes a very good set of sensors, id suggest calling them and discussing your needs.

they make a very cool sensor specifically tailored for ultra light soil mixes such as Cornell peat lite.
 
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queequeg152

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or fucking blumats... i always forget about bluemats.


i dont use them because they are not pressure rated, but i HAVE used them in the past. they work very well.

blumats are basically a small soil tensiometer without a vacuum gauge or transducer.
 
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