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MntBudz "Bringing the Mountains Inside"

MountainBudz

⛽🦨 Kinebud and Heirloom Preservationist! 🦨 ⛽
Golden Tiger one plant alone could fill that tent and then some they stretch and stretch and load with bud and long flower time if it was me I wouldn't mix that grow as gt will try to take over and shade out all others unless you do lots of training maybe the blue dream will compete with her ..B

I know man, im going to have a mess on my hands but, i've already germinated enough to put 12 plants in each tent so a total of 24. I kinda wish I hadn't of done so many, im only going to give them all about a 3 week veg time and throw into flower. The golden tiger is only one of the 12 in the tent lol. Ahh ill just have to train like a mad man bro, and if I have to i'll lollipop her out.

I have no room or any places to put them or I would. Too late now....lol.
 

MountainBudz

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:tiphat: curious about this CO2 generator... pics please!

Hey bro, I will put up pics later tonight for you, its time for a pic update anyways lol. It was really simple to make and only costed me oh, about $25-$30 to make.

The aquarium pump really makes it work well, without that it would still work but not nearly as well...
 

MountainBudz

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Lol ill have Kalimist, golden tiger, malawi, ecsdh and sssdh all in the same tent, gonna get fuzzy in there.
 

MountainBudz

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I honestly think that I will be okay though. A few grows ago I done 11 plants at 25 to 30 days veg in a 4x4 under a 1000 watt hps and they were in 5 gallon containers at that.... I think a couple might have been in 3 gallon. It was very crowded but I still yielded between 2 to 3 ounces per plant and had 2 killing fields and 3 super lemon hazes in there and the killing fields was a well known stretcher lol.
 

MountainBudz

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Ok yall looks like i'm having a little problem now. So far my plants have looked very very healthy. They are going into there 9th day of veg as far as I know, haven't checked the calender yet.

This morning upon wakening I have noticed that the latest plants that I "have not" watered yet are very droopy, well a few of them. They are in solo cups and I have only been giving them about 25 ml to 30 of water every few days when needed. The last group of plants that still look healthy I gave them 50 ml or so since they are getting larger and needing more water due to roots growing larger. The second group that i've not watered yet was due for this watering today. Out of fear that they were lacking hydro I went ahead and gave them about 40 ml of water only around the edges of the cups and yes the soil felt pretty dry but the cups did not seem too light but light enough.

So with the situation i'm assuming the droopy ones are under watered since its been about 4 days since there last watering, but I noticed the leaves were not lifeless, they sort of had that claw look and leathery feel to them which from what I know is signs of over watering whereas if they felt light and flimsy would point more towards under water.

I'm going to give them a few hours or so and see if they spring back up and of not then i'll come back and look for suggestions on what to do next. Honestly it is time they need to go on into there 3 gallon smart pots, they are on the 3rd going into fourth node now. So maybe if over watering is the cause, then the transplant into a good loose dry soil will be what they need.

Other factors could be:

They are in a 4x4x7 tent pretty much sealed with two homemade c02 generators '5gal' buckets, which seemed to be working pretty well at first. Not sure if maybe it was a placebo effect and they're not getting enough airflow so now the tent is open with a fan blowing inside. It is possible they were too deprived of oxygen and co2 because im not sure if the generator is producing enough to be honest.

The other factor could be that I moved the 4 T5 lamps about 4 inches from the tops and they are getting too much light "definitely not heat cause the temps are 70 degrees". So I raised the lights about 4 more inches.

In the meantime, what do you think my problem could be here? If they recover in a few hours ill know that over watering was not the issue, because in my experience under watering is corrected fairly very fast. Over watering however, takes days too correct.

Any help or advice would benefit me very much right now, I will get pics of them soon and show you what I mean but it will be a little while later.
 

MountainBudz

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I will also add that as far as feeding goes, the ones showing this effect have not been root fed yet. I added some great white shark myco to the soil is all and that was once they first sprouted. The only thing they have received is light foilar sprayings "misting" three to four times a day due to having very low humidity. And the spray contains only a half ml of advanced nutrients parts a&b with a half dose of B52 added. The other group of plants gets this spray as well and they are healthy.

The other group also got there first feeding a couple of days ago with half the recommended dose of A&B and some B52 and also tarantula. I did not feed the unhealthy looking ones today when I watered, even though they were due for a light feeding.
 

MountainBudz

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Well I just checked up on them and they are not looking any better after the watering. Actually they look worse. The fan leaves are all completely straight down, looks terrible. I think its time to go ahead and transplant them into there 3 gallon smart pots. What do you think??
 

MountainBudz

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The first two are the Nebula, that is exhibiting some of the problems I explained with drooping.

The second two is the Ace Malawi that just looks like complete shit and is not really doing any growing. Got a couple more doing this, but its by far the worse.

I have also noticed a bit of twisting in some of the newer growth on a few as well.

Everything was going great and all of a sudden BAM! this shit has to start happening.
 

MountainBudz

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I would just really love to have a bit of help with this entire situation before things really go down hill. I wan't to correct it while I still can.
 

mtntrogger

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I dont think transplanting is the issue yet. I would inspect them with a scope.Could be a PH problem or... worse. BM's if your real unlucky
 

MountainBudz

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I have had broad mites about 7 months ago with my last indoor run. Had been shutdown ever since. Have bleached the tents, cleaned walls in room and vacumed several times. Also fogged the room with hot shot fogger before this current grow started.

Would they survive for 7 months with no food? Dont know a whole lot about the broads. How can I get rid of them quickly? Off to inspect now.
 

MountainBudz

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Okay....

Just checked more than half of the plants, all leaves from old growth to new, tops and bottoms of leaves. I used a 60x-100x scope and used both 60x and 100x and seen nothing but little trichomes everywhere. No mites. So i'm pretty excited about that.

So now what? Can't check the pH because I don't have a pH pen. Have never checked the pH of any plant, soil or water in my 15 years of growing lol. Maybe its time I need one?
 

St. Phatty

Active member
The first two are the Nebula, that is exhibiting some of the problems I explained with drooping.

The second two is the Ace Malawi that just looks like complete shit and is not really doing any growing. Got a couple more doing this, but its by far the worse.

I have also noticed a bit of twisting in some of the newer growth on a few as well.

Everything was going great and all of a sudden BAM! this shit has to start happening.


They don't like the soil (Probably)
They don't like the water (maybe)

Had very similar growth happen to me. In that case, the soil I was using didn't have enough drainage. pH was also probably an issue.

In my case, the plants went about 2 months while I dealt with the Great Outdoors.

So they were bigger when I got around to my solution - transplanting them.


I would transplant some of them to a light high drainage seedling starting type soil.

In my case I needed a Baseline that works, so I went to (literally) Miracle Grow Garden Soil for the seedlings.

Then Foxfarm Ocean Forest soil for the bloom.


A pH pen can also very helpful (to understanding what they don't like).
 

MountainBudz

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Hey Phatty right now the soil is pretty basic. What I always use for seedlings. The bottom inch of the solo cup is just pure coarse chunky perlite and the rest is 30% perlite to 70% promix bx.

I really dont think the soiless mix is the issue unless maybe Inpacked the perlite too tightly by accident in the bottom.
 

MountainBudz

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I'm prepping the 3 gallon smarties for transplant right now. Will probably transplant tonight or tomorrow before it gets any worse.

I'm almost positive its overwatering because thenones that were showing symptoms worsened and the ones that really wasn't are looking very droopy as well now.
 
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