MMJ defense?

[Danks2005]

What do you guys think about, someone continuing to see doctors for their chronic pain, but instead of filling the narcotic pain pill prescriptions, save them to prove to a jury that the marijuana is truly to kill pain in the best way the patient sees fit, and said person is not a drug addict. I just saw an article saying tha acetominiphin is the leading cause of liver damage in the states, why should someone be forced to take these things to live when there is a much safer option, such as injesting MJ. Not that anyone wants to get busted but it doesn't hurt to prepare for the worst, and could maybe even play a part in changing the laws.

I am curious as to what you think as I don't know much about the U.S. justice system. But it seems that if a jury found you not guilty others could refer to the cas.

 

[whisperingeye]

I am not sure how that would play out in court. The ignorance that goes along with not accepting mmj is an image of a religious era that is almost gone (IMO) I don't know where you are or what your condition is, but what I would do if I were you is move to a state that is more excepting to your needs, you shouldn't be forced to take something that is more bad than good.

Good Luck

 

[Danks2005]

I agree, but my wife doesn't want to be far from family. Though i mention it almost every day. It is just rediculous that a person in one state can be looking at 5-10 years in prison, and another state carries no penalties, what happened to the UNITED states of america.

 

[Danks2005]

Seems that with a stack of unfilled, opiate pain killers, which bring big money on the black market, are known for causing death w/od and long term, and heavy prison sentences. Would prove that you are not a criminal drug dealer. Along with MRI that clearly shows a debilitating, painful condittion. I know that I wouldn't be able to send someone like this to prison, if i were a jurer, couldn't live with myself. I just wonder how many cased would have an actual mmj defense, but nothing comes of because of plea, i know it would be hard to go to court with 10years looming over you, instead of 1-2 years, or probation in a plea. Somebodys got to man up, and try to change.

 

[ureapwhatusow]

barring any legal advice relative to your locale

you would need to prove there was a detriment to the opioid treatment recommended

teh doctor told you to take it hes the expert and his testimony will be highly respected

 

[groady-ho]

only problem i see is that MJ does not kill pain as well as a perc10, demoral,dilaudid or a host of others, atleast for me it doesn't..it does help with the nauseau associated with pain meds tho...not all narcotics contain tylenol either..they give me perc 10's w/ out tylenol plus there are many others out there too that don't contain tylenol..

 

[igrowone]

i did see a related thread somewhere, think it was in this forum
someone had MMJ literature in his grow area
he gets raided, the literature gets hauled away, along with the plants
DA drops the case after learning of the literature was part of the evidence

 

[Hydrosun]

What do you guys think about, someone continuing to see doctors for their chronic pain, but instead of filling the narcotic pain pill prescriptions, save them to prove to a jury that the marijuana is truly to kill pain in the best way the patient sees fit, and said person is not a drug addict. I just saw an article saying tha acetominiphin is the leading cause of liver damage in the states, why should someone be forced to take these things to live when there is a much safer option, such as injesting MJ. Not that anyone wants to get busted but it doesn't hurt to prepare for the worst, and could maybe even play a part in changing the laws.

I am curious as to what you think as I don't know much about the U.S. justice system. But it seems that if a jury found you not guilty others could refer to the cas.

In MMJ states a prescription for pain pills from one Dr. is enough for another Dr. to recommend MMJ because it is better for pain. Maybe get a rec from an Dr. in your state or another saying MMJ is better than pain pill X for you.

Peace,

 

[Danks2005]

Even if these opiates are a little better for the pain, I just can't deal with the nausea, itching, and don't like the idea of physical dependency. I think some would be suprised as to how good mmj can kill pain, when a good indica is injested. I like the idea of maybe finding a doctor that would recommend this treatment, but don't know how plausable that would be in my area, but worth looking into. Or like you said go to an mmj state and get a rec from a doctor. I know this isn't a garunteed aquital, but you may as well start now obtaining any ammo you may need in a future court case. Hopefully, you will never need to use it.

 

[Danks2005]

I've seen many people with my own eye's, who legit pain, led them to a path of self destruction due to opiate addiction. When relying on these pills daily, you build tolerance pretty fast. I've been using these meds for about 4 years here and there, but this last year my pain has gotten to be worse, and I am not comfortable taking even more pills. At this point, 1 vicodin and 1 soma does absolutely nothing for me. The doctor has upped me dosage, and I go from no help w/ 1, to loopy and unable to work w/ the higher dosage.

 

[Hydrosun]

You are preaching to the choir here on ICmag.

I bet this indica would help.



Peace,

 

[ureapwhatusow]

i think pharmacutical opiates are uber dangerous for more than addiciton

pain is a mechanism of the body

many people take opiates stress the body part worse which leads to a worse body more pain pills a vicious cycle

then ya need em to get outta bed

BUT

Doctors (court recognized experts) have highly regarded opinons

i mean saving teh scripts and having some medical literature that says pot is an alternative may add some dimension but call norml for your state

they would have some resources including that could help

 

[Hydrosun]

barring any legal advice relative to your locale

you would need to prove there was a detriment to the opioid treatment recommended

teh doctor told you to take it hes the expert and his testimony will be highly respected

You don't need to prove shit in the false "innocent until proven guilty" country they need to prove BEYOND a REASONABLE DOUBT, but as you said having the ammo is a good idea. The more ammo the more REASONABLE DOUBT.

Peace,

 

[Danks2005]

I know I am preaching to choir, but I am having a bad day painwise, and needed to vent a little. I have no MJ, and am trying to leave the pills alone. I haven't taken pills in two weeks, longest i've gone in the last 9-12 months, and it hasn't been easy.

 

[Danks2005]

Oh, screw the doctors and their highly regarded opinions. Bottom line is, it is my body and i can treat it however i want. People have different body chemistry, and react differently to drugs, its all about finding what works for you, and I HAVE.

 

[Telly3000]

Do you already have a little grow of your own going?
I know MJ has worked wonders for me when lexapro wasn't doing sh*t.
It works for me and I'm glad it works for you, hopefully you can find a way to met your med needs, good luck brother.

 

[Danks2005]

I lost everything from a power outage, and am currently running one from seed for new mothers, I just took cuts from seeded plants, and will start to flower em tommorrow, so I am gonna be out for a while, good to have friends though. I just got 2 packs of Rez's seeds also, I will be running those next, but need mothers from this run first so I can get back to the perpetual crop.

 

[DopeRoper]

If you really want an answer to your original question, you should research the laws that are specific to your state.

Where I live, if you want to claim medical reasons as your defense in court, you need a doctor's certification that you suffer from a qualifying condition, and in the doctor's opinion, it may be improved through the use of MMJ. If you don't have a doctor's certification, you don't have a legal defense in court, regardless of what other documentation you might have.