mixes frome overgrow that i keep.

[Guest]

Vic High (BCGA) suggests his Super Soil mix:

Original recipe:

1 Bale sunshine mix #2 or promix
2 L Bone Meal - phosphorus source
1L Blood Meal - nitrogen source
1 1/3 cups Epsom salts - magnesium source
3-4 cups dolomite lime -calcium source & pH buffering
1 tsp fritted trace elements
1/2 - 1 bag chicken manure (steer, mushroom, etc) - nitrogen & trace elements
Mix thoroughly, moisten, and let sit 1-2 weeks before use.

Revised recipe - after several failures due to bad manure sources, I now use the following recipe. Results have been excellent and the clones seem to take off right away instead of having a slow growing settling in period.

1 Bale sunshine mix #2 or promix (3.8 cu ft)
8 cups Bone Meal - phosphorus source
4 cups Blood Meal - nitrogen source
1 1/3 cups Epsom salts - magnesium source
3-4 cups dolmite lime -calcium source & pH buffering
1 tsp fritted trace elements
4 cups kelp meal.
9kg (25 lbs) bag pure worm castings

Mix thoroughly, moisten, and let sit 1-2 weeks before use.

Substitutions - The original recipe was a success, but I simply needed to experiment. In addition, sometimes not all ingredients were always available. Therefore, here are some possible additions and/or substitutions.

 

[matthew barrack]

what???/

what???/

whats fritted trace elements? sorry curious late matt

 

[BennyBlanco]

no idea either

 

[matthew barrack]

i know

i know

i know what trace elements r, but fritted whats that thatt is the q??? late matt

 

[Jnugg]

whats fritted trace elements? sorry curious late matt

It means they are chelated for better/quicker availability for uptake by the root system.

 

[toecup]

i remember this recipe from og, i was looking for it too, i lost it, thank you

 

[BurnOne]

No need for FTEs. Use kelp meal for trace elements.
You'll also need to add about 20% perlite to that mix. Vic's mix has been improved over the years.
Burn1

 

[Suby]

I hope we are free to add more of them here...

Here is my nugget from OG, I've tailored my own but the classics worked for so many...

Good recipes I've collected and created my mix based on:

UNK:
Start by pouring a gallon of potting mix onto a potting bench. Add 1 tablespoon each of blood meal for nitrogen, kelp for trace elements, and greensand for potassium; then add 2 tablespoons of bone meal for phosphorus. Mix it all together and you're ready to plant.


TICKS:
Basically Organic mix with ProMix HP as a base. The ratios used for mixing are 50 Litres of Promix combined with with 25-35% wormcastings, 15% Shrimp compost, 750 ml of Bat guano and a cup of Bone & Blone meals. This renders aboot 85-95 Litres of grow mix.


SUPER SOIL MIX:


1 Bale sunshine mix #2 or promix (3.8 cu ft)
8 cups Bone Meal - phosphorus source
4 cups Blood Meal - nitrogen source
1 1/3 cups Epsom salts - magnesium source
3-4 cups dolomite lime -calcium source & pH buffering
1 tsp fritted trace elements
4 cups kelp meal.
9kg (25 lbs) bag pure worm castings

- Mix thoroughly, moisten, and let sit 1-2 weeks before use.

Substitutions

- The original recipe was a success, but I simply needed to experiment. In addition, sometimes not all ingredients were always available. Therefore, here are some possible additions and/or substitutions:

Blood & Bone Meal - when trying to cut costs
Kelp Meal - contains over 62 trace minerals. Good supplement for reducing the manure content to speed availability of soil.
Worm castings - excellent source of micro nutrients.
Bat guano - excellent for top dressing a week into flowering.
Seabird guano


BOGS - Feeding and Mix
I use Wal-Mart Continuous Feeding formula potting soil with 5-10% perlite added for aeration and drainage. I add 2 cups of bone and blood meal to every 10 gallons of soil. I feed Pure Blend grow in veg and I transplant 3 times. Starting in 1 qt pots then 2 gallon pots then 4 gallon pots.

I transplant to 4 gallon pots when going to flowering. At this time I give a strong dose of foxfarm bloom liquid bat guano product, 2/3 cup to a gallon. This is a one time heavy nitrogen feed as transplanted and going into high light flowering room. (all HPS 35 watts/sq.ft.)

Often I let them flower until sexed before the final transplant and nitrogen treatment. It doesn't burn them and they shoot in the first 2 weeks of flowering a lot. Capturing this growth "shoot" as I call it is the key to big buds IMHO. Health and vigor is maintained by lots of continued rooting through flower.

I also use some CO2 in flowering and some superthrive once or twice while in flower at a very weak rate. In flower I feed the first half of flowering with Pure Blend Bloom which has half strength nitrogen compared to their vegging formula. Then the second half of flowering I use Earth juice Bloom to feed as it has no nitrogen and my pots still have some.

SubCool taught me to premix my earth juice bloom 20 hours in advance to reduce its acidity and this has helped me feed more without burning them.

My Basic Tips... BUSHY’S GROW TIPS FOR BEGINNER INDOOR GARDENERS -- By BushyOlderGrower updated 5/2001

Soil Mix is easy get Sam’s Choice, Magic Earth with fertilizer (.09-.06-.05) in already and mix 2/3 cup of blood meal and 2/3 cup of bone meal into each 3 gal pot. By adding 2 tablespoons of dry lime to mix you help flowering and avoid over-acidity. Wal-Mart has this kind and it is cheap! Many prefer to use 5 gallon pots. You should add 10% perlite for good air to the roots and good drainage.

Stir and plant seed into this, fill pot well and wet well first time, we will supplement with organic fertilizers later. Black Gold is best gro mix but heavier soils are better than lighter ones. Shultz pro mix is expensive but highly recommended, Black Magic has also done well for some expert growers. I like Wal-mart continuous feeding formula soil

GROWDOCS SOIL MIX:
Per 100 liters/2 bags
60 gram seaweed meal
60 gram bone meal
120 gram blood meal
80 gram Guano Peru
20 gram trace element
40 gram lime/kalk
3 liter worm casting
12 liter Perlite
"Excuse me officer, but it keeps my stress down"....

 

[kaizersoze]

Suby -

Thanks for the BOG info... I had lost it and had wondered if Id catch it again.

 

[sproutco]

whats fritted trace elements?

Micronutrients that are like glass. They disolve very slowly maybe lasting over a year. Safe to use because they are so insoluble.

 

[Guest]

I hope we are free to add more of them here...

Here is my nugget from OG, I've tailored my own but the classics worked for so many...

Suby - glad to have been of assistance: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=263079#post263079

Never did post on OG though... LOL

 

[Suby]

Well that looks suspiciously like your post lol.
I just assumed I got them from OG because they are OG recipies but from what you just showed me it seems I copy and pasted one of your posts.
No harm or attention whoring was intended just sharing some old info.

 

[Guest]

Well that looks suspiciously like your post lol.
I just assumed I got them from OG because they are OG recipies but from what you just showed me it seems I copy and pasted one of your posts.
No harm or attention whoring was intended just sharing some old info.

I did steal them from OG! I was just bein funny old buddy! I am glad to be of service as I have learned so much from this site and OG.

Be cool!

 

[Guest]

Loving this discussion about organic soils. I used to grow hydro using purely liquid nutrients. The yields were great, however, I definitely noticed an improvement in the flavour and effect of the pot grown in organic soil.

A few questions as I am still new at the game. Please help me if you can.

1. I have heard that molasses is a good addition. If so, how and when should it be added? During veg or flowering? In the soil or added with water?

2. I have heard that the use of lime in the soil will stop the composting process. Is this true?

3. Where I live (in a far-off land) I don't have access to these wonderful organic products I read about on this post. I have access to and am using black soil, cow manure, perlite, peat moss, chicken manure, bone meal, lime powder. How does this sound? Is there anything else I can add to make it even better? Keep in mind there are many things I cannot easily find in the gardening section of the local home supply store, but I can perhaps find things in their natural state or in other markets or sections of the store.

I humbly await your advice. Thank you!

Cpt. Kirk

 

[stoned teacher]

Thanks for these posts. I used to use Bogs recepie and was looking for it. Question....For bogs fertilizing, it says foxfarm bloom...is it Foxfarm Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom or what?

thanks....

 

[vonforne]

Foxfarm Big Bloom, is how I understand it.

 

[moonshoes]

I was always partial to this mix. never grown but sounds like it has everything:

Kumquat's deluxe potting soil and manure tea
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Contributed by the BC Growers Association.

Kumquat's deluxe potting soil

9 gallons peat moss
3 gallons vermiculite
6 gallons perlite
1 pound blood meal
1 pound bone meal
1 pound green sand
1 pound lime or dolomite lime
1 pound rock phosphate
Pinch of boron (borax is an inexpensive source)

Blend ingredients in a small cement mixer or large barrel with a tight fitting lid that will let you roll it around to mix the contents. If you have to stir the ingredients in an open container, moisten them SLIGHTLY with water to avoid breathing dust as you work. Do not use more than a pinch of boron. It encourages root growth, but its levels can quickly go from helpful to harmful in the soil. Once you get the soil all mixed you can add some manure tea (see recipe below). The lime in this mix helps to neutralize the acidity of the manure tea.


Manure Tea

10 to 15 gallons manure (combine horse, chicken, and cow manure to get a nice balance of nutrients. 5 gallon bucket of chickweed and/or stinging nettles. Water to fill 55 gallon drum. Dump manure(s) in the bottom of the drum. Add chickweed and/or nettles, both of which are rich in trace elements, then fill drum with water. Once a week stir the "tea" and add water to replace any that has evaporated. You'll need a brewing time of at least 3 weeks before using this tea in the potting soil mix.
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