miracle grow question

[vegasguy911]

so i was wondering what u guys think of miracle grow bloom booster flower food for use in budding in soil...havent done it yet but my buddy said he had a decently greater yield after using it, i figure maybe if i use it and give a good 2 week or so flush at the end it might be worth a try.....is got an NPK of 10-52-10, what do you think?

 

[vegasguy911]

if not can you guys recomend a good bloom boosting formula for soil grow, i could go north to a hydro store but i want to try the miracle grow if possible.

 

[inflorescence]

Too much P, not enough K for that ratio. Probably too much heavy metals. Check the washington state ag site for heavy metal content.
What you put into the plant is what you'll be smoking afterward.

 

[vegasguy911]

yeah i hear ya but i thought you wanted the highest amount to be P in a bloom booster....and what about a recomendation>?

 

[inflorescence]

canna's pk 13/14 is much purer and the ratio's better.

13/14 looks like water and when disolved in water still looks like water.
Try doing THAT with miracle gro. lol

That miracle grow has too much N also.
Why would anyone want as much N as K in flower? :noclue:

Or just use GH floranova bloom.
It's all there in one bottle.
A little too much N also but you can add some GH flora seris bloom to bump the pk as needed.

 

[Levitikuz]

go with fox farms 3 part blooming nutes....Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, and Cha Ching....have never seen better results in my personal expierence with anything else.

later

 

[vegasguy911]

thanks man....any recomendations in a decent one part bloom solution good for soil

 

[SmokeMan]

I would never use miracle grow nutes IMO. Only because there nutes are not made for MJ. It is made for more N hungry plants that can eat a high amount of P or N.

If you insist on using it then Please listen! Only use it in small amounts. That stuff can over feed a plant real easy.
Just start with small feedings and see how it goes. And remember you dont have to feed it alot.


btw... try GHBB nutrients. For flowering I use TopMax and BioBloom more than anything.

 

[Guest]

Miracle grow will work.That said half strength is plenty. It can produce excellent looking plants. They will taste like...nasty. Salts will build up To toxic levels so flushing will be necessary. For me it would be a waste of time but by all means try this and post some pics.

 

[vegasguy911]

yeah im going to get some biobloom like you mentioned , what about dr hornby big bud?

 

[inflorescence]

So many bloom boosters, so little time.

They are all just PK, take your pic.

It's not like any of them have figured out a secret, it's all NPK Ca Mg ratios in the end. Learn that and be set forever.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Yeah I was using MG (standard tomato food, no bloom or anything). Obviously there's better stuff to use, but it is still plant food. As far as my pathetic little mutant was concerned using MG was the least of its problems. I may start a "how to NOT grow plants" thread here before long. I'm an expert on what NOT to do now.

That said I've taken a couple samples, which means I had to quick dry them to smoke. Wasn't exactly horrible, and makes me at least think a nice long cure would taste pretty decent, especially considering how wrong everything went in the beginning.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

MG is ok to use but you gotta flush and use it at half strength . Its some hot shit!! You can get by and grow with MG, no matter what people tell you. as long as you stop feeding 2 weeks prior to harvest and flush alot then you will be just fine.

Sure there are better nutes out there and nutes made for MJ. But not everyone has access to them and have to use what is availabel in their area. In that care MG is ok to use. Just go light on the stuff, light blue water, not dark blue water,lol. Flush , flush flush and watch out for salt build up





Nevermind

 

[gromer]

Miracle Grow is possible to use.Sadly I know of quite a few old school growers that use nothing but.But,yes theres a HUGE but,Their weed NEVER goes yellow at harvest no matter how long and hard they flush.It NEVER EVER will burn properly,dont even bother trying to smoke the second half of the bowl as it is like a small carcinogenic husk.May I reccomend Advanced Nutrients Big Bud it is HANDS DOWN the best bloom stimulant on the market.Ive tried the Fox Farm three part Open ses,BB and Cha Ching dealy and ya might as well get the Miracle Grow for alot less money.Does it make HUGE buds?Yes.But do they taste and burn well?No.Same story with about twenty other different companies bloom stimulants and hell just to show Im not just pushin AN Ill even say I loathe all THEIR other bloom stimulants.Bud Blood will near kill a plant and all that overdrive and hammerhead is doing is polluting the herb with chems at a point where one should no longer even be adding nutes.So there it is from a guy whos tried em all.That and some Indonesian or Jamaican Bat Guano and youll be amazed.Big Bud Ive found not only increases size,but also adds weight and density.AND it increases resin production,yes a bloom stimulant that INCREASES resin output.Im usually a strictly,I mean strict organic gardener but for HUGE buds Advanced Nutes/Dr Hornsbys Big Bud cant be beat.Just think its invented by a guy that developed a strain of pot to produce THC exclusively for the throat spray Sativex.This Guy knows his cookies,trust me anything with his name on the label is gonna rock your world!!

 

[Haps]

This product is made by Scotts, the new american nazi business. This company does not allow tobacco smokers to work there, not even if they only smoke in their own homes. They drug test for weed and tobacco, and will fire you if you smoke, which is still legal in america. And it is the worst available product for weed, it can work, but will never give you the best results. I would not take their products for free.
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[Mr. Nevermind]

Miracle Grow is possible to use.Sadly I know of quite a few old school growers that use nothing but.But,yes theres a HUGE but,Their weed NEVER goes yellow at harvest no matter how long and hard they flush.It NEVER EVER will burn properly,dont even bother trying to smoke the second half of the bowl as it is like a small carcinogenic husk


No offense but....the guys that grew that didnt know what the **** they were doing then. As long as you use MG at half strength and stop 2 weeks prior and start flushing the plant will grow as normal or as organics would. I have grown using MG and my herb burns clean and tastes like herb, not chemicals. No sparks or crazy looking ash. Just clean burning white ash. Its really not that hard. Seriously, if you can only finish half a bowl of their shit you need to tell em to lay off the dark blue water. I would glady take the pepsi challenge to anyone with MG versus anything else. In the end with proper flush you cannot tell a difference.


I still have half a box of the stuff. I have switched to coco and coco nutes but have no problems with MG , never had any issues with it




Nevermind


PS : wow, thats awesome. I typed a curse word and it came up as ****,lol. Funny. I can talk without cursing though so no big deal

 

[inflorescence]

MJ is a bio-accumlator. Used to clean up Chernobyl. It will absorb whatever you give it.
Miracle grow is better classified as a waste product than a fert.
The production concentrates a lot of heavy metals (as do some other fert companies).
You will be burning these metals when you inhale.

 

[Levitikuz]

Non organic nutes are still considerd "Natural" also...the difference is that Non organics come from certain salts and rocks ... and organics come from animals and plants....and its harder for the plants to uptake organic nutrients...plants can uptake nutes eaiser with non organic nutes, meaning a little larger yeild with non organics.

later

 

[JJScorpio]

MJ is a bio-accumlator. Used to clean up Chernobyl. It will absorb whatever you give it.
Miracle grow is better classified as a waste product than a fert.
The production concentrates a lot of heavy metals (as do some other fert companies).
You will be burning these metals when you inhale.

Most all people that use chemical ferts, use more than needed. The plant and soil store nutes so there is no need to use right until harvest. I also think way to much is made out of "tasting" the ferts. If that were the case, shouldn't you taste it in your vegetables? Maybe if I were to fert right up until harvest I would taste it. I don't know, but I suggest everyone stop ferting at least 14 days before you harvest. I would also say to continue with a tbs of molassis with your water though. Unless you have starved them, there is plenty of food for the plants to finish healthy.......

 

[B.C.]

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MJ is a bio-accumlator. Used to clean up Chernobyl. It will absorb whatever you give it.
Miracle grow is better classified as a waste product than a fert.
The production concentrates a lot of heavy metals (as do some other fert companies).
You will be burning these metals when you inhale.

Funny you should mention that.Isn't MG made from the biproducts (waste) of Monsanto Chem company? I'm purdy sure I've read that somewhere(?).later,BC