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micro cuttings ?

sunnyside

Plant Manager
Veteran
anybody else read any of this?? I know this is the SD forum and SD does not carry SOL seeds...but this is an interesting idea nonetheless...and definately worth talking about...right?
http://www.cannabisworld.org/vbport...php?s=&threadid=80613&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

Spice of Life is going to metamorphasis (sp?) and bring you better than seeds. I have the best minds from outside the industry aiding in the development of this new endeavour.
From the time I release these new creations seeds will only be of use to breeders. I will still sell seeds for your breeding projects, but they will be secondary to the delivery of micro-propagated plants encapsulated for travel.
I will make selections from a minimum 10 packs of each of the twenty best-selling varities on the market and offer you those micro-cuttings for less than the cost of one pack of the seeds used, saving you buying ten packs and growing a selection crop. And that is just to start... I will be offering you a complete selection of plants over time. You might not even want to keep mothers and make cuttings. I expect to be able to retail them for $2 apiece within 12 months. Consistent cropping everytime. The first ones which will be released (hopefully) in 2-3 months will likely cost more, but still well worth it. You will have to raise them from tiny to regular size, and that will take about 30 days, but very little space and light.

Wanted: one Ortega clone, one original Diesel clone, one OG Kush clone. Offering a lifetime supply of Spice of Life merchandise for each.

List the strains you would like me to buy 10 packs off and select a mother for distribution. The future is now, and I'm on it. The technology has been with us since the seventies, but we will be among the first applying it to cannabis....
...I will systematically make selections to offer from purchased packs of seeds as well as my own.
Certainly honest breeders will be welcome to contribute their selections to the projects for royalties. Otherwise I only need to buy 10-20 packs of any strain I want to sell cuttings off which is undoubtedly cheaper in the long run than paying royalties....The first two that are in the lab are the Sweet Pink Grapefruit, and my original Sweet Skunk cutting. If any friends want to contribute their selections to be in the first release of these units, now is the time!
 
G

Guest

interesting idea BUT !!!!!!
he openly admits to really not wanting to pay royalties to breeders of seeds etc cheaper to just buy the seeds then take the seed breeders market by taking away the need for people to grow seeds as he's already got the best that variety has to offer.
so seed breeders will die out and steve will own all the genetics.thereby creating world domination of the canna industry.
 

bartender187

Bakin in da Sun
Veteran
interesting.....

micro-cuttings??? lol gets you wonderin how small they actually will be...

times are a changin'
bartender187

Posted by ED on CW in that referenced thread:


"http://www.sp.edu.sg/schools/cls/bioline_08.htm

What is it?

A plant seed consists of an embryo and its food store (endosperm), surrounded by a seed coat (testa). The seed ensures that the next generation of plants exists.

The embryo

The embryo is made up of one or two cotyledons attached to a central axis. The upper part of the axis contains a plumule at its tip. The plumule grows into the shoot system. The lower part of the axis consists of the hypocotyl and a radicle. The radicle grows into the root system.

The endosperm

The endosperm is the food reserve that the embryo uses during the early stages of germination. Before the embryo is able to produce its own food through photosynthesis, the endosperm provides vital nutrients to the embryo.

The testa

The testa protects the embryo from injury and drying out. It also makes sure that the embryo remains viable before germination. As germination occurs, water is absorbed and the seed coat breaks allowing the radicle to first emerge from the seed.






Artificial Seeds

Concept

Artificial seeds were first introduced in the 1970s as a novel analogue to the plant seeds. The production of artificial seeds is especially useful for plants which do not produce viable seeds. It represents a method to propagate these plants. Artificial seeds are small sized and this provides further advantages in storage, handling, shipping and planting.


What makes an artificial seed?

Artificial seeds can be produced by encapsulating a plant propagule in a matrix which will allow it to grow into a plant. Plant propagules may consist of shoot buds or somatic embryos that have been grown aseptically in tissue culture. In culture, these plant propagules can easily grow into individual plants as we have the capacity to control its growth using chemicals provided in the culture media.

In the production of artificial seeds, an artificial endosperm can be created within the encapsulation matrix. The encapsulation matrix is a hydrogel made of natural extracts from seaweed (agar, carageenan or alginate), plants (arabic or tragacanth), seed gums (guar, locust bean gum or tamarind) or microrganisms (dextran, gellan or xanthan gum.). These compounds will gel when mixed with or dropped into an appropriate electrolyte (copper sulphate, calcium chloride or ammonium chloride). Ionic bonds are formed to produce stable complexes. Useful adjuvants such as nutrients, plant growth regulators, pesticide and fungicide can be supplied to the plant propagule within the encapsulation matrix. In most cases, a second coat covering the artificial endosperm is required to simulate the seed coat..



Advantages of artificial seeds

Artificial seeds have the potential for providing an inexpensive plant delivery system. The process of planting can be easily mechanised and this allows the direct delivery of tissue cultured plant propagules to the field. It also provides rapid bulking up for the production of individual genetically engineered plants.


How are artificial seeds made?



Shoot buds cut from shoot cultures can be used for artificial seed production. They are cut to 2-3mm in size and placed in the encapsulation matrix.



Somatic embryos formed from cultured plant parts are ideal for artificial seed production.



Using a sterile 10ml pipette, the shoot bud / somatic embryo is drawn up with some encapsulation matrix.



The shoot bud or somatic embryo is dropped into the complexation solution and a capsule is formed and allowed to harden. Capsule hardness can be controlled by the concentration of the complexation solution and the complexation time. Size of the capsule is determined by the size of the shoot bud or somatic embryo and the inner diameter of the pipette used.



The capsules or artificial seeds are collected by decanting off the complexation solution and rinsed in water. The artificial seeds should be pliable enough to cushion and protect the embryo, yet allow germination and growth of the shoot bud or somatic embryo. It should be rigid enough to withstand rough handling during manufacture, transportation and planting. For the artificial seeds to remain dormant until planting, a thin layer of water-soluble resin is used to coat the encapsulation matrix."
 

truecannabliss

TrueCanna Genetics - Selection is art
Mentor
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Bring it on, bye bye to all the elite clones, we will all have em soon hopefully.
Peace
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
If he were doing it for honourable reasons, then all good, but its a bit shitty really...especially the "tough shit" way he talks about it when mentioning about the origional breeders.
 
G

Guest

i'll take regular ol' fashion cuts, myself, thank you...

im always open to new things, especially regarding a new way to propagate the cannabis plant, but this sounds WAY FAR-FETCHED
 

sunnyside

Plant Manager
Veteran
Fernandro said:
i'll take regular ol' fashion cuts, myself, thank you...

im always open to new things, especially regarding a new way to propagate the cannabis plant, but this sounds WAY FAR-FETCHED

why claim ignorance when you know the truth? If the technology is out there why wouldn't everyone be jumping on this wagon?

One of the biggest and most limiting factors when growing herb is the genetics, If you could bypass all of the males and the inferior females from the 'seed' why wouldn't you? The term 'elite' could disapear from growes mouths forever...it would all be elite!!

There is no reason to hate on Steve...personally I think he is an asshole, but that's not a good reason to brush this topic aside...is it?
 

sunnyside

Plant Manager
Veteran
Would these 'clone seeds' be considered plants or seeds or neither...as far as gov't is concerned?
 
G

Guest

would be ok if it was only steve's "wares" but its not .
hes talking about basically putting all the breeders out of buisness when he says he will buy others seeds to find the best representation of that plant to sell so we dont have to buy seeds anymore.
gene theft?
i have no problem with the idea or the technology but blatantly putting out others plants is wrong.
 

sunnyside

Plant Manager
Veteran
gr33nz said:
would be ok if it was only steve's "wares" but its not .
hes talking about basically putting all the breeders out of buisness when he says he will buy others seeds to find the best representation of that plant to sell so we dont have to buy seeds anymore.
gene theft?
i have no problem with the idea or the technology but blatantly putting out others plants is wrong.

I think everyone agrees on that point gr33nz...everyone but Steve lol.
Whats to keep other seed companies from starting up similiar projects? Businesses change to keep up with new techology everyday...what makes seed companies any different.
If steve is going to sell something as lets say "BOG's lifesaver" BOG should get roalties no matter if the plants were started from seed or not.
 

Cakes

Member
sunnyside said:
Would these 'clone seeds' be considered plants or seeds or neither...as far as gov't is concerned?
The classification would have to do with whether they had THC in them.
 

tempes~tos

Active member
I recently saw an article in the paper about how they are starting to do this with other agricultural crops (not weed) and I was wondering why no one does it with ganja. any plant can make a cloned new plant from just one cell, so if this starts to take off it means we all will have the best ganja available! awesome!!
 
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