Michael Moore: hero or villain?

[Guest]

Here is one sample from a website he claimed as a source:

^And this is one of the more funny and not so gory images from that site! Michael Moore could make a movie called "Sicko II" based on the authors of that site alone.

All you've got is attacking me or my source. It's all you've EVER had. You won't touch the topic. Why is that?

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[HCSmyth]

All you've got is attacking me or my source. It's all you've EVER had. You won't touch the topic. Why is that?

Actions speak louder than words.

Nope, I was just agreeing with zymos's characterization of you…

 

[vaprpig]

Stoned2Death, you need to get a dictionary. You need to refresh yourself on the definition of socialism. You should also look up communism because you don't have the slightest understanding of that word. And one more for you, FASCISM, look that one up and spend a little more time understanding it than you did learning about socialists and commies.

 

[SmokeyPufmaster]

We are the FIRST FREE country this world has ever seen in recorded history. I am positive there is good reason it's not socialist/communist or any other form of govt.

I'm quite sure that the Native Americans and the African slaves would disagree with you. Let me add the Japanese Americans during wwll.

 

[Stone Locust]

"Anti semitism is a zionist lie"..I'm pretty good at deciphering,I'll give it a shot...Lets see...There are no anti-Israeli feelings in reality,it's all propagated by American and Israeli Zionists to portray the peaceful Arabs and Persians in a negative light.

You put it like "everybody knows arabs and persians are not peacefull". Well it' s really sad that you think like that (and I have been guilty of that when I was younger too) because if you would go to middle eastern countries you'll find those people to be incredibly hospitable and peacefull also against westerners, who partly are responsible for years and years of their hardship, poverty and bad status in the world.
And yes the the governments of those countries suck, just like yours. But from the normal civilians we westerners have lots to learn.

The image portrayed by the media about middle eastern people is the opposite of how things really are there and it makes me sick that they're propaganda works. I should know because when I was younger I also had something against those countries.

 

[Guest]

"Anti-semitism is a Zionist lie" ?? What does that even mean?

Next up: the Holocaust never happened-it was all made up by the Jews that own the all the media!

Zionists try to use the "anti-semitism" lie to play the victim game just like they have for centuries on end.

Here's a link for those that don't understand this topic:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/WhatIsZionism.htm

If complaining about Zionism was anti-semitic, what do you say to Jews that complain? http://jewsagainstzionism.com/

 

[Guest]

I'm quite sure that the Native Americans and the African slaves would disagree with you. Let me add the Japanese Americans during wwll.

Native americans were an indigenous people, not a country. The USA was the first free country the world had ever seen. Until then it was unheard of for an individual citizen to have SOVEREIGN rights. The "sovereign" of that time were royalty only.

Vaprpig - I am quite clear on my definition of socialism and communism. In BOTH types of government the individual HAS NO RIGHTS. I'm sure you know this better than me because you learned government in high school right? Please explain where my points are flawed rather than just ASSERTING that they are. Point it out....

 

[HCSmyth]

You put it like "everybody knows arabs and persians are not peacefull". Well it' s really sad that you think like that (and I have been guilty of that when I was younger too) because if you would go to middle eastern countries you'll find those people to be incredibly hospitable and peacefull also against westerners, who partly are responsible for years and years of their hardship, poverty and bad status in the world.
And yes the the governments of those countries suck, just like yours. But from the normal civilians we westerners have lots to learn.

The image portrayed by the media about middle eastern people is the opposite of how things really are there and it makes me sick that they're propaganda works. I should know because when I was younger I also had something against those countries.

Do you have a clue what is going on in this thread? Your buddy S2D is being a blatant bigot and you chose to criticize American for this comment? All he is saying I believe, is there is BLAME to go around. On both Israel and Arabs leaders. Your buddy S2D thesis seems to be the Jews/Zionists are to blame for EVERYTHING!

 

[zymos]

Zionists try to use the "anti-semitism" lie to play the victim game just like they have for centuries on end.

Here's a link for those that don't understand this topic:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/WhatIsZionism.htm

If complaining about Zionism was anti-semitic, what do you say to Jews that complain? http://jewsagainstzionism.com/

You should maybe put down the pipe-I think your sense of reason is deteriorating. Or maybe you are doing it deliberately.

First you say "antisemitism is a Zionist lie"-which would mean the Zionists are lying about the fact that there is antisemitism in the world.

Then to supposedly "proove" this "fact" you point out that many Jews are not happy with the directions and policies of Israel. Which,although true, does nothing to support your original statement, and in fact has nothing to do with your supposed myth of antisemitism.

I don't know why I even bothered typing this- you are a mixed-up, gullible bigot, or a troll, and either way nothing I say in going to change that...

 

[zymos]

Look, if I was spewing miles and miles of bs, people would laugh and shrug it off.

Gotta love your do-it-yourself logic:
the fact that people call you on your BS means it must be true

 

[Dirt Magirt]

The USA was the first free country the world had ever seen.

I am always amazed at the people that by into the "free country" BS.
I just spent 5 1/2 years in prison for growing a plant! A plant that is illegal in almost every place in world... because of the country we live in.
To many laws have made this not such a free country.
Freedom is doing what you want as long as you are not hurting anyone. There is much oppression in this country.

Dont know about Micheal Moore?

 

[Guest]

I am always amazed at the people that by into the "free country" BS.
I just spent 5 1/2 years in prison for growing a plant! A plant that is illegal in almost every place in world... because of the country we live in.
To many laws have made this not such a free country.
Freedom is doing what you want as long as you are not hurting anyone. There is much oppression in this country.

Dont know about Micheal Moore?

It was the first free country. When this country was founded you could grow all you wanted. Now it's a fascist police state, but hey, VOTE RON PAUL????

 

[Backdoor man]

Let me spell it out for ya,bub-
the reason no one is arguing the topic with you, is that there is nothing to argue.

No the reason no one is argueing the topic is because it is a topic that very few people understand or have even a basic knowledge of, the problem for those that do try to be apologists for the Zionists is that it is the zionists themselves that give the Anti-Zionists most of our "propaganda", like for instance when the Prime minister of Israel was quoted on the 3 october 2001 saying..."Everytime we do something you tell me America will do this and do that...I want to tell you something very clear: Dont worry about American pressure on Israel, We the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it"

You are seeing things that aren't there-it's as simple as that.

I can assure you that everything S2D has said thus far can be checked and validated - if you are not capable or do not have the desire to do this then you are wasting everyones time.

I wouldn't try to refute your assertions any more than I would try to hold a debate with you if you insisted that the Earth was flat.

But if you were to debate the shape of the Earth it wouldnt be too difficult to disprove S2D's flat earth theories - so why can you not do the same with regards to Zionism.

 

[Dirt Magirt]

, VOTE RON PAUL????

I wish that I could! But Im a felon. See what I mean....