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michael moore...................who the f*ck cares???? :shrug:
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Michael Moore: hero or villain?
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HCSmyth said:
LoL!
Save face for those that don't know you Agent Smith. You and I have been around about this before. I know what's up. 
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S2D I have to admit I'm totally disappointed at your response to my serious question about Silverstein that nobody can seem to coherently answer...Yea,lets put the evidence right in their faces the dumbasses..Thats your reply?Thats pitiful man I just lost respect for you as a conspiracy "enthusiast".Anyone else give it a try?A real coherent answer that makes sense this time?I've been waiting about 4 months...
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The American said:
Dude...you having the name "The American" is like having a cat named "DOG". Call Larry's interview a Freudian slip! After all, the zionists like Freud. Either way it's not very smart when you stand to make BILLIONS of dollars off the destruction of those buildings and you say there was a decision made to take it down. That's not claimable on insurance. "Yeah, I knocked my house down, but I'm still collecting on it"....
Your attempts to discredit me are weak. Good teamwork though...great play...atta boy, and all that stuff. I'm sure your comrades are happy you're backing them up.
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I don't mind the guy, i'm a liberal voting European and tend to agree with him most of the time... but sometimes the way he makes his films makes me cringe.
Sicko was the worst example, it's that really cheesy sympathetic voice he puts on... I don't know, its hard to describe but it annoyed the hell out of me. That and he made out universal healthcare to be perfect in the countries he visited, like we somehow live in a perfect utopian society that has people to do laundry for new mothers and clean efficient hospitals to treat any ailment - FOR FREE!
Fair enough, i'm a staunch advocate of universal healthcare and see it as a fundamental human right, always side with the left and love all my fellow human beings but Sicko just felt a bit too manipulative, it didn't give the whole story at all... I know he wants to improve America but I think it's important to give people both sides of the story... not some bullshit fantasyland distortion of society in that far off land of western europe and beyond.
Sicko was the worst example, it's that really cheesy sympathetic voice he puts on... I don't know, its hard to describe but it annoyed the hell out of me. That and he made out universal healthcare to be perfect in the countries he visited, like we somehow live in a perfect utopian society that has people to do laundry for new mothers and clean efficient hospitals to treat any ailment - FOR FREE!
Fair enough, i'm a staunch advocate of universal healthcare and see it as a fundamental human right, always side with the left and love all my fellow human beings but Sicko just felt a bit too manipulative, it didn't give the whole story at all... I know he wants to improve America but I think it's important to give people both sides of the story... not some bullshit fantasyland distortion of society in that far off land of western europe and beyond.
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Well, with sicko, Moore fails to tell people that what he is pushing is actually a communist/socialist agenda, which AGAIN is part of the Zionist plan laid out in the Protocols....sheesh!
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The American said:
Apparently you're just not looking hard enough.
The following posts are all from me on 8/20 in the locked '9/11 - The Truth' thread.
1. "While this quote is, to say the least, in suspicious nature, one cannot legitmately prove he implied the building was to be imploded."
2. "I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse. –Larry Silverstein
"it" -- What is it? My guess, is "it" is short for the rescue operation in general at the WTC complex. Nothing more should be made of it, in my opinion."
3. "I know about the foreknowledge, that's a bit irrelevant here. Silverstein could have been called for 2 reasons.
1) He is the owner.
2) To quote the reason the commander called for, "(he called) telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire".
I am not trying to defend Silverstein here, don't get me wrong, I'm just a little intriuged by how readily some claim for the word pull, in that case, stands for the word demolish."
I was even being optimistic about the quote.
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Thats not at all what I'm talking about and its sure no answer to the question of self implication in felonius activity.If I remember correctly there were conspiracies centering mostly on evidence of corporate misconduct between Bush and his "Corponazi's" hidden in that bldg and thats why it was "pulled".Thats just one of a few insane reasons given by "truthers" why Silverstein supposedly pulled the bldg.,there were more bullshit assumptions to be sure.Again,why would Silverstein video himself talking about concealing felonius activity by bringing down a bldg.???
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Lots of people are making strong statements about MM's supposed lies. It's one thing if you just don't like him. But if you want to repeat the noise to continue marginalizing him I would hope you could point out where he has lied with facts that support the "truth".
Personally I wouldn't have made such a strong statement supporting him without knowing the facts. I understand he exaggerates and omits info for his cause in his films. What media form doesn't?
But look at what the person is trying to achieve, where their money comes from and how egregious are their exaggerations and omissions?
So educate us. Show us the REAL "truth". Anyone?
Personally I wouldn't have made such a strong statement supporting him without knowing the facts. I understand he exaggerates and omits info for his cause in his films. What media form doesn't?
But look at what the person is trying to achieve, where their money comes from and how egregious are their exaggerations and omissions?
So educate us. Show us the REAL "truth". Anyone?
For f'ks sake people...the term "pull" in firefighters vernacular, means to get everyone out of the building. IE: pull out all the firehose & equipment if possible, but mainly get the f'k out of the building immediatly.
I always amazed at how conspiracy freaks will cling to their own out of context straw man quote mining snippets and try to make it into something that never was after the fact.
IE: "an da buildins came down like dey wuz demo'd...boom boom boom boom" f'king horseshit.
I always amazed at how conspiracy freaks will cling to their own out of context straw man quote mining snippets and try to make it into something that never was after the fact.
IE: "an da buildins came down like dey wuz demo'd...boom boom boom boom" f'king horseshit.
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Stoned2Death said:
What the hell man, hes pushing an element of modern democratic "socialism" that most of the world takes for granted - universal healthcare.
Do you really think that everyone outside of the US are commies or something? Just because we have far more extensive social programs? We're not commies nor socialists in the way you think we are...
sometimes Americans worry me. Paranoid.
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waydee said:
The internet is such a wonderful place. Nowhere else do people purposely take your words out of context.
I am not accusing any country of being commies. However, I know the dangers to our liberties that are posed by a socialist or communist society.
Our constitutional republic was designed the way it is to avoid oppression and government controlling any aspect of people's lives. If we put health care in their hands it will be as bad as everything else. Schools, roads, socialist security, etc etc.
Yeah, universal health care is great, but let that come from compassionate individuals in the private sector, not from governments. If you don't fully understand the dangers of adopting socialist programs in a FREE society, then I honestly can't help you. If a socialist society was so great our forefathers would have set the US up as one.
I'm not a paranoid American. I just happen to be one of the few that realize the dangers of a socialist/communist society, and I also recognize the importance of the way our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC was set up. We are the FIRST FREE country this world has ever seen in recorded history. I am positive there is good reason it's not socialist/communist or any other form of govt.
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Do you know anything about the state of healthcare in the US? And about the changes that have occurred due to letting the private sector control more and more of it? It is truly disgusting to let healthcare become a for profit industry.
What does "compassionate individuals in the private sector" even mean ?!
HMOs want one thing only, and that is $$. One of our local hospitals got bought out, fired the MDs, and told them they would rehire them as independant contractors.
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zymos said:
Do you know anything about socialism?
Again, socialism is another step in the plan laid out in the Protocols of the Elders Of Zion. I'm telling you, that's one AMAZINGLY accurate forgery. How did a forgery predict so much? http://iamthewitness.com/books/Protocols.in.Modern.English.htm
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Anti-semitism is a Zionist lie that has been used for ages to push the world into the poor state it is in today...Way to point yourself out!!
Btw, the things I talk about are quite easily verified.
You have anything to say about the actual topic? I do. Michael Moore is a Zionist shill.
Btw, the things I talk about are quite easily verified.
You have anything to say about the actual topic? I do. Michael Moore is a Zionist shill.
