Mendo Purps history?

[goingrey]

Mendo Purps is really one of the main building blocks of modern cannabis. With GDP, Purple Urkle, Grape Ape, and descendants like Trop Cherry tracing their lineage back to it.

But there doesn't seem to be a whole lot that's known about its history. A Google search will come up with a lot of claims that it was bred in 2007 by BC Bud Depot but obviously they just worked with the already-existing clone to make some kind of seeds available.

There's an article on Leafly where @ToddMcCormick is quoted as saying the following: McCormick remembered seeing circulating cuts of Purple Kush, a Hindu Kush/Afghan cross, in the mid-1990s, and attributes them to Kenneth Morrow of Trichome Technologies. From Purple Kush comes Mendo Purps and its phenotypes Purple Urkle and Lavender.

Here on ICMag there is also some interesting info on a couple of threads about Urkle:

the first time i grew what we now call the purps i couldnt sell it. nobody wanted black purple small dense pounds. that was 1998. flash forward 5 years and if you were not moving purple you were not moving. every body asked the same question then as they ask now? what is it?
i know the cut most likely didnt come from humboldt as thats where i live and our crew got it out of the bay area in 98 so i doubt it was bred here, went south and then came back with no one having a copy here. maybe but not likely.
we called it purple haze then. a few years into it i heard it called urkle and barney and those names were supposed to indicate that it was an even rarer version but you know how that bullshit is so no matter what the name you could always tell the flower from the orange hairs.
a few years after that the pretendicas came out. they looked like the purp but didnt smoke like the purp. could only sell it once lol. it started to be harder to find the real cut. og came out and eventually purp went away as far as top strain was concerned but during its run it was absolute ruler of the cali state.
what is it? who knows. solid indica that is very pm resistant outdoors and produces a fanatsic product outdoor here in humboldt. anybody grow it before 98? where did you get the cut from region wise? just like og-only the breeder really knows...

Purple Urkle Lineage?

Hello IC!! I have been growing the PU for years now and managed to lose it. My two mothers and my friends mother have all died. This sucks!!! First time I couldn't save a plant. Anyhoo... I don't know how common the cut is. I am on the east coast. This is a very dear strain to me. Anyone...

www.icmag.com

(A reply to a suggestion that Urkle is a straight Pakistani indica selection)

Thats where your 100% wrong also, just to sit it straight, and this is from the horses mouth. The purplr urkle cut was found out of the first and only seed run done by the group that created the mendo Purps, which from what they(2 of the creators) told me was a cross between a purple paki and an old skunk. They then crossed that(the mendo purps) to a very old purple Afghani and from those seeds is where the urkle cut comes from and 2-3 other purple cuts that have been pasted around Nor Cal. believe it or not.

The reason it was the only seed run made was due to all but 2 of the group getting busted in one of the largest outdoor grow busts to this day in Nor Cal back in the early 80's and they lost almost all of there breeding stock except for some seeds that they had stashed.

Anyone know lineage of purple urkle?

cripple creek same as salmon creek??? i donno what the hell all the talk about food coloring and skunk 1 and chronic is about. if that isnt a total joke uve never had purps from norcal. at least not that shit ive been smokin for years

www.icmag.com

So based on these posts it goes back to at least 1998, was created by a group rather than an individual, from seeds that dodged a bust in the early 1980's.

Back in the day Mendocino growers were understandably tight-lipped but has that started to change along with the times? Does anyone have more info about this variety and its origins?

 

[JetLife175]

Look up notsodog. He's the one with all the mendo purps info.

 

[goingrey]

Look up notsodog. He's the one with all the mendo purps info.

Thanks! Found it. Think I've actually seen it before but... brains must be fried. Starts at 35 minutes in.



So yep 1998 is the year. Matches with what @30years said.

NotSoDog got some old seeds from some guy as thanks for some weed. An Afghani reproduced in Covelo in 1977. Two germinated, one was a male that died, the other is The Purps. The end...

 

[ArtOfSelection]

Be hard pushed to find a better smelling strain .......i wasn't impressed with bc bud depots regular reproduction tho

 

[Jellyfish]

Great thread, I love grape and Cherry strains- love to learn more about them. Is there even a way to subscribe to threads on the upgraded (LOL) site?

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

So what about Urkle and GDP? And the SR 71 Purple Kush?? Pretty sure the Mendo Purps has absolutely nothing to do with them. If there was already cuts in 98 when Notsodog popped his seeds in 98 that wouldn't work. I have been super curious about this. I'm growing out the SR 71 Purple Kush right now.

 

[goingrey]

So what about Urkle and GDP? And the SR 71 Purple Kush?? Pretty sure the Mendo Purps has absolutely nothing to do with them. If there was already cuts in 98 when Notsodog popped his seeds in 98 that wouldn't work. I have been super curious about this. I'm growing out the SR 71 Purple Kush right now. View attachment 18746984

The commonly told story is that Urkle is related to Mendo Purps. If we go with what @30years said not just related but the same exact clone. And GDP is said to be Urkle crossed with Big Bud. But if you have legit info to the contrary please share.

The SR-71 is supposedly of a different pedigree. Looks very nice.

 

[Dawgz_Daze]

The commonly told story is that Urkle is related to Mendo Purps. If we go with what @30years said not just related but the same exact clone. And GDP is said to be Urkle crossed with Big Bud. But if you have legit info to the contrary please share.

The SR-71 is supposedly of a different pedigree. Looks very nice.

Yeah I've heard that. Has anyone actually grown all three? Or all three at the same time? I'm working on doing that. People also say Urkle is SR 71 Purple Kush but they're definitely different. This is why I'm gonna get to doing some side by sides. My point I stayed earlier could be solid proof but I need to check back with someone and I will pass the info back here. If the Urkle or GDP or SR 71 Purple Kush or all 3 pre date Notsodog popping Mendo Purps in 98 that definitely means they're not related. Mendo Purps is bagseed from purple Afghani he got from a buddy that was grown originally in 77. Definitely check out Breeders Syndicate podcast.

 

[goingrey]

Yeah I've heard that. Has anyone actually grown all three? Or all three at the same time? I'm working on doing that. People also say Urkle is SR 71 Purple Kush but they're definitely different. This is why I'm gonna get to doing some side by sides. My point I stayed earlier could be solid proof but I need to check back with someone and I will pass the info back here. If the Urkle or GDP or SR 71 Purple Kush or all 3 pre date Notsodog popping Mendo Purps in 98 that definitely means they're not related. Mendo Purps is bagseed from purple Afghani he got from a buddy that was grown originally in 77. Definitely check out Breeders Syndicate podcast.

What's your source on them all being from before 1998?

 

[acespicoli]

 

[JetLife175]

What's your source on them all being from before 1998?

The genetics were around since the 70s. Seeds were popped in mid 90s. Notso says it himself.

 

[Raco]

A good old friend blessed me with a handfull of reslly well grown Urkle....the real deal (I believe him)
I love this herb...THX a lot bro

 

[goingrey]

The genetics were around since the 70s. Seeds were popped in mid 90s. Notso says it himself.

The Mendo Purps seeds were from 1977 but not grown until 1998. Back in 1998 nothing similar was on the scene. And the GDP/Urkle didn't show up until mid 00s.

All from this Breeders Syndicate episode:



But in another episode they say they don't know what the GDP and Urkle really are. And while the format of the podcast is some guys shooting the shit and they don't always get everything right or know everything, I think this is something they would know if it was common knowledge. So maybe the Urkle/GDP lineage isn't really known at all, though all over the Internet they are said to be descendants of the Mendo Purps...

 

[jessethestoner]

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[goingrey]

The Pot Cast
Episode 85 ft Not So Dog

Howdy gang! Welcome back for our second installment with the Humboldt hero, Norcal legend and one half of the incredible breeders syndicate, Not So Dog! We had such a good time and such positive feedback that we felt we had to get the legend No So Dog back on for another installment of knowledge and cannabis history! From Headband and Mendo Purps to breeding philosophies, politics and more - this one has all bases covered!