Medicating Our Energetic Kids

[Nikijad4210]

I'm not sure how to word this, but I'll give it a shot to get the discussion started, at the very least.





I'm curious as to how you all feel about medicating our kids. I'm talking about stuff like Adderall, Ritalin, etc. Do we really have the right to medicate our kids with such powerful drugs, or is this detrimental to their personal, individual developement?

I began wondering about this a couple of weeks ago, after Wolf was telling me about his childhood, how he was one of those "always gotta be moving" energetic kids, and I said, "You realize if your childhood was today, you'd have probably been drugged to the gills for ADD?"

I'm wondering if we as a society are going down the "lazy track", medicating our kids into a sloth stupor to relax the adult, not neccessarily to help the kid.

I'd like to know if any of you have been down that medication road, either as the child, or the parent, and how you felt/feel about it.


In short---


Do we have the right to make hyper kids walking zombies?

 

[TrichomusCaesar]

Absolutely against medicating kids....the medicine is often worse than the illness...not in all cases...but in the vast majority.

If you or your child don't have issues with vital organs....pharmaceuticals should be avoided.

I know lots of people who were diagnosed as hyperactive or with ADD....which were then perscribed Ritalin.....nothing about them changes accept for the fact that are are now popping pills.

Seems like now-a-days there's a name for everything and a medicine for it....chemicals are not the way to go.

 

[ElDust]

I see more kids wanting to pop Ritalin then not wanting too. They went for 2 dollars a pill at my high school.

 

[Neuronaut]

If I was a conspiracy theorist i would say that the government is trying to medicate our hole society to make us easier to control.

 

[Ruosk]

Control is just a cool bonus, big bucks made through medicalization the main goal.

 

[treble]

yes I think its a double edged sword to medicate for ADD and both are sharp edges. I was one of those kids who would today be medicated. My cousin was worse and we were called boisterous

fortunately I had access to large yards, open areas to play and ride. Every kid should have a bike by 5 in my view. Its fun to begin then it becomes transport and freedom and safety for a kid. then they pretty much look after themselves... boys at least

I had a good experience over the holidays when seeing extended family. A girl was very active but this was recognised as a opportunity and plenty of options are provided to keep her active like sports. School works ok and I figure she will be a pro sport something or other

Execise, talking to kids, eating right, all you need. Balance = Balance yeah?

peace
treb

 

[Guest]

Let me first preface my comments with the tag - IMHO

My signif other is a teacher - made a career outta helping the less advantaged. The majority of kids she sees that are doped/medicated/classified as ADD, ADHD, etc., come from single parent, or disfunctional homes.

Her opinion of the majority of "hyper" kids is that the parents are either incapable, or too lazy/selfish/busy to properly deal with the child, and as a result the behaviour spirals outta control.

Most kids - barring an actual medical reason, respond positively to a loving and nurturing caregiver. This indicates the prob is not the kid, but their parents.

Some kids have problems - fetal alcohol syndrome, Autism, etc. Most are just not cared for appropriately.

If a teacher ever suggested my kid needed drugs to make him more "pliable", they'd get tossed out on their ass.

It's too easy to medicate - it's hard work to raise them correctly.

ws

 

[Capt. Cannabis]

Im now 20, and ive been diagnosed with ADD at the age of 12. At age 15-16 I took ritalin daily, my school results went from very low to very high. But my social life took the opposite road, I was alone alot and always felt like I wasn't myself.

Now here I am 4 years since I stopped taking ritalin on a daily basis and Im doing alright. My school resultschanged back as suddenly as they came, but my social life and happiness also came back. Now I just use ritalin when i have a test and the rest of the time im one happy toker

got to go now, post more later

 

[Guest]

No shit ya'll, I didn’t vaccinate my children when they were born(all natural births ) or have ever given them shit. Why dope them up on some shit now because I can’t handle them or they are too hyper?

When our child had an ear ache we gave an old cure of garlic and olive oil, it worked no need to get tubes for ears and seeing a doctor that has a degree that established he “practices medicine”. That's what thier doing practicing on your ass.

Other parents we know seem to get a lot of pressure from relatives who think a clinic is a cure all. They’ll make excuses to feed them poison like soon as thier born …school requires it, or the immigrants are bringing shit over..blah blah strong survive.

By the way check this out parents if you are expecting…http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm
forms for each state giving you a waiver. It’s simple use it.

People need to get back to the basics and combine the technology/knowledge we do have.

Maybe if the kids sugar was reduced maybe they'll settle down abit,..

My chitlins are like walking tornados but its fine, their healthy full of energy the way I was as a yougin.

Making zombies out kids and giving them a complex at the same time that they cant coup without a fda approved pill because teachers and selfish parents cant coup, horrible idea.

 

[Alex-F]

It's too easy to medicate - it's hard work to raise them correctly.

And most young parents nowadays care more about their social life than the upbringing of their kids.

 

[Guest]

the kids that actually need this kind of medicine are few and far between. but we DO exist. listen to you guys, i would expect more from this group. same shit could be said about medicinal marijuana, " people who smoke mmj are just dopers looking for an excuse to get high". sound famliar? maybe not, wow, you out of all people should know just because people abuse, or misuse a substance doesnt make it medicinally useless.

 

[Alex-F]

I think you missed the point here.

Of course there's some that need proper meds, but this is more about the trend to medicate "difficult" kids rather than making the effort of raising them propperly.

Or have I missed the point?

 

[Guest]

sorry i have a sensitive nervee when it comes to this subject. i run into lots of peeps who have no hands on experience with ADD and make drastic claims about how these medicines serve no purpose. It is these people who my post is referring to and it is these people who have there heads up there asses.

 

[Guest]

I wasn't trying to insult anyone or parent.. I personally find it b.s

I was and probably an understatement a freaking hellion as a kid and add 2 brothers just like me to it.

The schools suggested to give me medicine because I was a brawler and a class clown and most of all questioned authority, lol. They brought the folks in and tried to sell it on them, this was 1979 grade school. They said no thank you.

Now here I'm in my mid-late 30's & still can get the adrenalin pumping and hyped like a youngster but my sugar intake is far less than as a youth. Plus I'm an adult and can smoke some doobage to “get high” and “relax”.

The cure back then as a kid was an ass wippin and going to bed without supper. No food for a night and that will slow your ass down.

It is these people who my post is referring to and it is these people who have there heads up there asses.

here's a prescription for ya:take your head out your ass and sober up with your pitty for myself party

 

[Alex-F]

I'm with you on that for sure.

I just think that in todays society the move to drugs is often made a little to quickly just to make matters easier, and that's in every field of meds not just ADD.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Have you peeps seen the movie Thumbsucker? Its about this kid who starts taking ritalin... its a very funny... and clever...

Supposedly ritalin is only 1 molecule away from cocaine...

 

[Guest]

Execise, talking to kids, eating right, all you need. Balance = Balance yeah?

peace
treb

I agree...

ADD/ADHD were not around when I was a kid. My younger sis was hyperactive... drove mom nuts lol she cut out sugar and caffeine... Have you been in schools lately? Pop machines in practically all of them... snack bars to pick over the cafeteria food...

Peace~

Hippie Chic

 

[genkisan]

The Pharma-Nazis care about nothing more than next quarters profits......the health of your kids sure as fuck does not concern them.
Remember, this is the insustry that brought you Thalidomide, Celebrex, Accutane and Vioxx.

If kids were actually treated like people by their parents and by society, not programmable drones, maybe this would not be an issue.

As it is, kids these days are sent off to school to be indoctrinated into being a good little employee/consumer, are popped in front of a TV afterwards cause their folks are too busy/lazy/incompetant/drunk to actually deal with them and then taught that this is all normal.

No wonder they are fuckin' restless, misbehaving and hyper......I would be too.

And I was.

Thank Jebus that my folks were anti-doctor hippy freak types who never had me medicated.

 

[Pops]

The posts by Genkisan, Txgrown and Hippychic all have something in common. We were raised differently. I grew up in the 50's and 60's. We didn't have ADD or ADHD back then. We also didn't have extreme diets full of sugar and caffeine. We ate foods that we had raised and meat that we shot or raised. No hormones--no additives.

We didn't have a television until I was 10, in 1954. Only had 2 channels and we couldn't watch it unless all our homework and chores were done. We had PE at school and played games/sports afterwards, a very active lifestyle. Our parents didn't chuck us full of sugar, caffeine and hormones and then set us in front of a TV for the next 6 hours. There were no computors or gameboys.

I learned to read at an early age and never lost my love for it. I used to read up to 200 books a year. If I spent too much time reading, my mom would kick me out of the house and make me go play outside.

Today. i have a 36 yo daughter who is diagnosed Panic/anxiety and adult ADD. She was prescribed Adderall and only took the 5mg child's dose. She called me at 3:00 AM and was totally suicidal. It took me 3 hours to calm her down. I believe that many of her problems are hormonal, but cannot get a doctor to do the proper tests.

Doctors don't really want to cure anyone, they just want to cover up the symptoms so that we can function. They pump tons of dangerous chemicals in our bodies and expect us to get well or to come back to them for more dangerous chemicals.

Sorry about the rant, but I respect doctors only slightly higher than politicians(for whom I have no use whatsoever).

 

[Guest]

Doctors don't really want to cure anyone, they just want to cover up the symptoms so that we can function. They pump tons of dangerous chemicals in our bodies and expect us to get well or to come back to them for more dangerous chemicals.

I couldn't agree more... it's a bandaid without dealing with the real cause. We live in a rush rush society... let's not fix it... let's just put a bandaid on it and keep moving...

Peace~

Hippie Chic