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NserUame

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Alright, backstory. I have two dogs, one of them is older and has had knee surgery on both of his knees. He's the best dog I've ever had, and most days he's fine. However if he plays rough with the puppy, or sometimes for reasons unknown it's very obvious his legs get stiff and hurt. During these times it's pretty depressing to watch him lay on the rug all day. The vet gave me anti-inflamatory pills, and they seem to take away the pain however they make him lethargic and tired.

Now I'll admit occasionally my dogs get a couple puffs to the face. The times he's been sore I've noticed his legs don't seem to give him as much trouble and he's actually able to play.

Back to the question at hand (though I bet I lost two out of the three people that clicked this), I have a bunch of vaped bud remains laying around. If I whip up some canna treats with the bud remains would it still have the pain relief/muscle relaxing properties? I'm not a big fan of drugging up my dog, however he really does come running (or gimping) when he smells smoke in the air.

Also, if anyone before me has done this and has some recipes that work well I'm all ears.
 

HCSmyth

Member
I though vets sometimes prescribed pure 5mg hydrocodone tablets with NO Aceteminophen(because it is toxic to them!). I am not sure about this though because I am not a vet.
 

NserUame

Member
Well the pain comes from the knee stiffening up, not an actual persistent pain. So something like vicodin (or generic brands) would be kind of overkill. Not to mention that stuff is habit forming...and I'd hate to leave a fiending animal alone in my house.

His current medicine is Rydil? Rydal...too lazy to go up the stairs for the medicine.
 

JJScorpio

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If you blow the smoke in his face does he lap at it or shy away from it. I have a friend whose dog will try and lick your mouth if you blew the smoke at him. If he enjoys it, what the hell.

I once had a vet prescribe naproxin for anti inflamatory medication. I would give him what the vet says and if he wants a hit, give it to him. But if he doesn't I wouldn't force him.....
 
S

Space Ghost

id say dope him up when he's in bad pain, but dont overdo it, take his body weight into account.
 

NserUame

Member
He doesn't shy away. He'll scoot closer wag his tail and occasionally lick his chops.

Believe me I dont want a doped up dog, however I don't want a door stop for a dog.

Generally it's at least four or five days in between needing his anti-inflamatory. Often it'll be a couple weeks where he'll be fine. However you can tell he hates being on the pills. He lies in one spot the whole day, eats maybe half his bowl of food (which normally is not enough in his mind), it's depressing.
 

JJScorpio

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Why don't you try cutting the dosage in half and see if he is more energetic. The thing with the anti inflamatorys is they have to be taken on a schedule so they keep working. Going back and forth isn't helping him. I'd cut the dose in half and see if you can find a happy medium.....
 
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NserUame

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JJScorpio said:
Why don't you try cutting the dosage in half and see if he is more energetic. The thing with the anti inflamatorys is they have to be taken on a schedule so they keep working. Going back and forth isn't helping him. I'd cut the dose in half and see if you can find a happy medium.....

Well the thing is the vet said to use as needed, not on a daily schedule. Though I do get what you're saying. I didn't really think of cutting them in half...common sense must be nice to have.

This dog isn't that old, and I just feel awful that's been through so much already. Truely couldn't ask for a better friend though.
 

JJScorpio

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They must just be a pain pill. Try cutting them in half and see how he responds. Depending on the size and the animals system, it may take a little experimenting. Try and find the amount that helps with the pain, yet doesnt knock him out. I would also talk the the vet about some anti inflamatory medication......
 

Humanure

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i almost lost a cola to her while taking this shot a few months back..

she laps up the smoke..when she hears a bowl being tapped or me coughing, she comes and curls up on the downstairs couch with us!
 
G

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YOur dog most likey comes closer when you smoke cuz its like a bonding ritual. Dogs are a creature of habit. The more you do something together the more your dog likes it. The smoke will prolly make your dog feel a lil better mentally. But its the closeness and routine that they like.

Dogs are also perscribed diazapam (valum) They get around 5mg per 55-75pounds.
 

NserUame

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Not exactly. When I'm outside having a cigarette he won't come near me, which is good don't want him getting any of that. Not to mention once he's had his fill he wanders off, generally to the water bowl (proving cotton mouth isn't limited by species) and then off to do whatever he pleases. When he's high most of his time is spent exploring the house or following the fence outside (and or nipping at the tree branches).

I think he's definently after the effect, not to discredit the bonding ritual theory it seems plausible. It's just he doesn't stick around, makes me feel slightly used...
 
G

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NIce. My theory also has to do with the dogs feeling the "high" vibe from their owners during a session. When I smoke around dogs they just seem to calm down and want to lick something:) Dogs are awesome animals!
 
NserUame, that last sentence had me laughing. My dog is the same way. Sometimes when I give her a lot though, she gets real confused. She loves going in the house and last time I got her high, she altogether forgot to get up and try to come inside when I went back in to the house. I had to call her and get her attention. I know she loves it though. She will sit there and drool while I take my hits. Usually something she only does for food.
 

NserUame

Member
They really are. Which is why it's difficult to see them in pain, or not able to do the things that dogs by right want to do. When I was a kid I wanted to be a vet, but soon realized I wouldn't be able to put down animals without taking it pretty harshly myself.
 

Uncle Jesse

Active member
Gringo said:
Dogs are also perscribed diazapam (valum) They get around 5mg per 55-75pounds.

thats a correct statement above,

and you can give them regular buffered asprin
at 1-- 320mg--tablet for every 35 lbs i have in the past a quick net search will be more accurate .

NO TYLONOL EVER. !

I had a 45 lb runt of the litter full grown Pit eat an 1/8 og good green an
and he was more stoned than i ever was,and he was fine in about 7 hrs, dont leave your weed under a tv guide and go to work lol :pointlaug

wish you and yours the best, UJ
 

Uncle Jesse

Active member
found this on a site

found this on a site

Uses for aspirin

Dogs are most commonly given aspirin for treatment of arthritis and associated joint pain. There may be other situations where your dog is in pain, where aspirin may give relief.

Aspirin has good anti-inflammatory effects that reduces swelling. It can also reduce pain and fever. These effects will help make your dog more comfortable.

Note that a dog is not a human. Just because your dog "does not feel good" is not a reason to give it an aspirin. Usually, aspirin is given to relieve extreme conditions of discomfort. Also note that most vets prescribe Rimadyl as a better pain-killer and anti-inflammatory than aspirin.
Use caution

You should use caution In administering any medication to a pet, because too much may be toxic, the medicine may not be tolerated, or it can cause an upset stomach or ulcers in the animal.
Can be toxic

It can be toxic if given in high doses of about 30 mg per pound of the dog. This means that even baby aspirin could be poisonous for dogs weighing two pounds or less. An adult aspirin which is 320 mg. would be toxic for a 10-pound dog. To be sure that you are using the aspirin for the right reason and at the right dose, you should consult your veterinarian first.
Not for young dogs or cats

Aspirin is poorly tolerated by young dogs, since they lack the enzymes necessary to process the aspirin. The same is true for most cats.
Upset stomach

Aspirin can cause gastrointestinal upsets and ulcers in dogs, just as in humans. You should pay attention to your dog's eating habits when administering aspirin to watch for signs of an upset stomach. If there are any signs of ulcers, such as blood-tinged vomiting, it is important to stop the aspirin.

Giving the aspirin with food and using buffered aspirin is the best to prevent stomach problems.

I prefer to grind up the aspirin and put it in some food to make sure it does not irritate the stomach lining.
No Tylenol

You should not give your dog such products as Tylenol as a substitute for real aspirin. Some people say their vet prescribed Tylenol, but most sources say it should not be given to animals.
Recommended dosage

Most veterinarians recommend between 5 mg and 10 mg per pound of the dog's weight every 12 hours. Going on the safe side, a recommended dosage of aspirin of about 5 mg/lb seems to work well for most dogs. If you are going to give more, it is a good idea to check with your vet. Also, note that a small dog should take less per pound.

Enteric coated aspirin is not recommended in dogs because about half the time the coating isn't digested and the aspirin is excreted whole in the stool.
Start small

It is better to start off small and work your way up to the maximum. If the dog has relief with a smaller dosage, that is great.

A standard aspirin is 320 mg. A baby aspirin is typically 80 mg. That means that 5 mg/lb works out to be one baby aspirin per 16 pounds of body weight twice a day.
Chart

The following chart can be used as a guide. Note that this is not medical advice.
Weight of dog in pounds Number of tablets each 12 hours mg
8 1/2 baby aspirin or less 40 mg
16 1 baby aspirin 80 mg
32 1/2 adult or 2 baby 160 mg
48 3/4 adult or 3 baby 240 mg
64 1 adult or 4 baby 320 mg
80 1 1/4 adult or 5 baby 400 mg
96 1 1/2 adult or 6 baby 480 mg
In conclusion

The proper dosage of aspiring can give your dog relief from pain and inflammation. You should be aware of possible problems and know the proper dosage. It is good to check with a vet before giving any medication, and remember that dogs are not humans and don't need an aspirin for minor pains.
 

Haps

stone fool
Veteran
Did you try stems? My bitch loves to help when I am trimming bud, she thinks chewing up the big stems is helpful. So I just cut and put the rest in a small bucket and let her self medicate, that is the plan here, hehe.
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