Med-Man Tables By Krunchbubble...

[krunchbubble]

Bullshit....

I have such a LOVE/HATE relationship with this system....

Right now, I really HATE it....

Pics later...

 

[MIMedHead]

Sorry to hear that Krunch hope all is Well in the real world

 

[krunchbubble]

The plants looked great through the 72 hour darkness cycle. I went in ans turned two lights on in the room and turned the co2 back on. Came in 30 minutes later and one plant went limp, then the others followed...
Ive done everything in my arsenal to treat root rot or stem rot. Disinfected everything, flushed the plants and tried some secret codes....
The GDP look tits though!



GDP Table...


Grape Ape Table...

 

[krunchbubble]

Im REALLY contemplating giving up on this system now, maybe its just not for me?

Or maybe I should grab the bitch by the tits and give em a good ol titty twister and try again?

 

[mojave green]

you gonna do what you like krunch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fbHOAbOcNI
good luck!

 

[cannabacca]

Hey Krunch have you tried or thought about trying Rootshield plus ? http://www.bioworksinc.com/products/rootshield-plus.php In my case I got wiped out by some type of root rot so I started using Ridomil it works to control root rot but the plants don't like the stuff. I think I'm going to try Rootshield plus it's supposed to work but I don't know anybody that tried it.

 

[asilsweater]

nice thread krunch,im running mmtables also and have never expierienced anything like that.first it looked like maybe ur medium dried up and ur plants starved of water but u said u seen them all good after darkcycle.did u check ur hoses maybe they plugged,i dnt turn off my water its on 24/7 even on darkcycle.if its root rot just check ur roots and if theyre brown and slimy dat wat it was.keep in mind ur supposed to be using h2o2,it prevents root rot and helps with the nutrient uptake. dnt give up and start wat u finished.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

I stay away from hydro because I am 100% sure I would get root rot every time. Just won work in my enviorment. I know I would be mad and bummed at the same time.

Feel for you.

 

[dabking]

Maybe skip on the 72 hour dark cycle till its all dialed in... My 2 cents.

 

[theother]

Hindsight is 20-20 but ya, the 3 day dark now seems like a questionable idea now. Again thank you so much for your candor! It is so refreshing. Also fwiw you sharing your over veg really helped me deal with mine. I'm sure all this sucks cock right now, but you probably just helped someone and for that I say thank you!

Maybe you could remake the top of the table to properly spread the remaining plants and try and train them out as wide as possible. It will never be as good as having all of them but could possibly help. You could also try and consolidate the plants so that you could at least run 1.5 tables?

 

[topshelf_sac]

Im REALLY contemplating giving up on this system now, maybe its just not for me?

Or maybe I should grab the bitch by the tits and give em a good ol titty twister and try again?

Is there any threads were this system goes all the way through flower? I saw medmans thread and he didnt finish his plants.

The system looks like it has explosive growth, but until I see results I will stick with coco or soiless due to reliability.

 

[theother]

Is there any threads were this system goes all the way through flower? I saw medmans thread and he didnt finish his plants.

The system looks like it has explosive growth, but until I see results I will stick with coco or soiless due to reliability.

Honestly bro your just talking about hydro vs soil/soilless. It's a risk reward thing that is not entirely peculiar to this system. Nft is commonly used by big AG, and I'm sure they do some modified top drip stuff like this as well. Honestly (besides potential stem rot) I think med mans take on nft is an improvement.

Fwiw I do soil! Taken my hydro lumps and even took a beat in coco, so I do agree with you. Also fwiw again I could have grabbed up current culture rdwc systems like crazy for pennies on the dollar here when everyone gave up on it, but it never crossed my mind. Hydro likes to melt every so often and life is scary enough without tho it that all the time!. Most of the undercurrents I see now are being used to dtw coco (they work really well for it lol)

 

[frankenstein2]

Honestly bro your just talking about hydro vs soil/soilless. It's a risk reward thing that is not entirely peculiar to this system. Nft is commonly used by big AG, and I'm sure they do some modified top drip stuff like this as well. Honestly (besides potential stem rot) I think med mans take on nft is an improvement.

Fwiw I do soil! Taken my hydro lumps and even took a beat in coco, so I do agree with you. Also fwiw again I could have grabbed up current culture rdwc systems like crazy for pennies on the dollar here when everyone gave up on it, but it never crossed my mind. Hydro likes to melt every so often and life is scary enough without tho it that all the time!. Most of the undercurrents I see now are being used to dtw coco (they work really well for it lol)

I worked at a "Big Ag" place that grew tomato's ina 15 acre building with a glass roof over it. They did NFT, with top feed a few times a day. 12'-15' tall tomato plants, with 10' of horizontal growth before they went up. Amazing stuff!!!

 

[topshelf_sac]

Honestly bro your just talking about hydro vs soil/soilless. It's a risk reward thing that is not entirely peculiar to this system. Nft is commonly used by big AG, and I'm sure they do some modified top drip stuff like this as well. Honestly (besides potential stem rot) I think med mans take on nft is an improvement.

Fwiw I do soil! Taken my hydro lumps and even took a beat in coco, so I do agree with you. Also fwiw again I could have grabbed up current culture rdwc systems like crazy for pennies on the dollar here when everyone gave up on it, but it never crossed my mind. Hydro likes to melt every so often and life is scary enough without tho it that all the time!. Most of the undercurrents I see now are being used to dtw coco (they work really well for it lol)

No I'm specifically asking for proof about the medman table. The thread I saw him do was never finished in flower and I couldn't find one example of a finished medman table grow. I'm not doubting or hating, just looking for one example.

I grew for a couple of years with ebb and flow trays/hydroton so I know that works and I've seen many other styles of hydro grown successfully on this site as well.

 

[theother]

No I'm specifically asking for proof about the medman table. The thread I saw him do was never finished in flower and I couldn't find one example of a finished medman table grow. I'm not doubting or hating, just looking for one example.

I grew for a couple of years with ebb and flow trays/hydroton so I know that works and I've seen many other styles of hydro grown successfully on this site as well.

Interesting, never crossed my mind that this was much different than any other nft style hydro, I suppose it could be though. Honestly I don't know of anyone (besides on the internet) that has done nft now that I think about it. Maybe someone will chime in.

I worked at a "Big Ag" place that grew tomato's ina 15 acre building with a glass roof over it. They did NFT, with top feed a few times a day. 12'-15' tall tomato plants, with 10' of horizontal growth before they went up. Amazing stuff!!!

That's kind of what I thought, I know they do it for certain crops commercially around here but have no firsthand experience of it.

 

[Mister_D]

Sorry to hear about that shit krunch. Though that's exactly why I asked about the switch from live to a dead res. I say you scrub it clean, and give this beast one more shot . Just keep the res dead, or alive from start to finish. None of this switch in the middle shit . Hydro loves consistency man .

 

[RetroGrow]

I'm not doubting or hating, just looking for one example.

Doubting doesn't necessarily mean hating. Skepticism is healthy. It is the basis of all science.
Now myself, I don't hesitate to recommend Hempys with coco. It just never fails and is so simple. Never seen root rot/problems with Hempys, and it is a true hydro system, and coco is a true hydro medium if you water daily or with drippers. But then, I like to keep things simple. Just my two cents. NOT "hating"....
Experimentation is a good thing. Without that risk taking gene, we would still be back in the stone age....

 

[asilsweater]

check out med mans youtube channel growyourown

 

[The Doktor]

I spent 5 minutes looking at those videos and I can't get that time back. Ummmmmmmm ummmmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhh ummmmmmmmmmm......WTF? lol is this guy 15 or something?

 

[catman]

Plants adapt to their environment. In soil where moisture is often scarce, plants create "adventitious roots" to find water. With a hydroponic system they don't need to do this and instead they can allocate their energy to stem, leaf, and fruiting growth. The plants become very well adapted to a hydro system and they can not handle much change.

Now an extended period of darkness is going to stop transpiration; the process of watering leaving the leaf that comes from the roots. This movement allows plants to stand up straight. Plants grown in soil are far more flexible to changes in moisture in their root zone so they can tolerate a darkness period. It's different for hydroponic plants as you've just found out.

To best recover they need to transpire while not being overwhelmed. Spraying/misting them can help, but keeping them too wet will further prevent transpiration. Your best bet in my book is to reduce light levels and allow them to bounce back slowly. Best wishes.