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check out this biased piece of yellow journalism.....Heart would be proud of the Age
the Age has been on an anti-cannabis crusade for a number of years..here's their latest hysterical nonsense
http://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/allmenareliars/archives/2007/04/marijuana_is_no.html
Marijuana is not safe
Print Normal font Large font Before we get into this, let me say I've smoked more dope than 95 per cent of you reading this; guaranteed.
For close to 20 years I inhaled leaf, tip, buds, bush heads, hydro, chocolate buddha, simsinella, Mexican dirt weed, power skunk, Maui wowie, black hash, brown hash, green hash, hash oil, the putty out of downpipes, I've even ground up seeds and stems and smoked them.
I've cooked with pot, eaten it in cakes, brownies, banana bread and straight off the plant, I've drunk it in thick shakes and smoothies, teas, bongwater and, once, smeared resin on my eyeballs because someone told me it would get me stoned (didn't work).
I've grown it, stolen in, given it away, traded it for a wetsuit, even pretended it was parsley and kangaroo shit when selling it.
So, please don't tell me I'm anti-dope; I just reckon it's time that people, in an attempt to sound enlightened, stop telling the world that marijuana is harmless, when anyone who's been around it for long enough knows that's not true ...
I dunno whether you've ever heard voices after taking drugs but I have, several times, and it used to be what I paid good money for.
The problem was, as my drug career deepened and lengthened, those pesky head noises would appear after just one cone of hydro; and there's the rub.
Hydro, or hydroponically-grown marijuana is everywhere nowadays; it's the dope of choice for younger smokers, because nothing else delivers the punch and the value for money like a knuckle of super-sticky buds out of some bikie's basement grow-room.
If you've ever seen a hydro set-up, you'll know they get hot and humid and are a magnet for every type of bug and insect within a kilometre; which is why a lot of growers hit their plants with a cocktail of pesticides and fungicides that make Agent Orange look like Ventolin.
This means the plants, and the buds kids smoke, are also chock full of those pesticides, as well as fertilisers chosen by growers whose knowledge of chemicals and their effect on the human brain is limited to "this shit hammers you".
My dope smoking career spanned the popularistion of hydro, and I remember quite distinctly when, at high school, blokes started turning up with superskunk that put the bush buds we used to choof to shame.
We flew at it like moths to a flame, or more accurately lemmings over a cliff.
I left high school in 1986, and, of the 160 guys in my class, 10 or 11 I know of, all hydro smokers, developed mental problems. Some, like me, were smart enough to take their foot off the accelerator, but at least one's killed himself and another three have been institutionalised.
My generation is the first to have had a widespread and prolonged exposure to hydro and as we get older, I can tell you, the human wreckage isn't pretty.
The link between marijuana use and mental problems has been written about many times before , but there's still a persistent mindset among a lot of younger users I talk to that dope is natural, "it's a herb" and it's "better for you than tobacco", which is just not the case with hydro.
The problem with writing something like this is it's only the people who've been there and smoked it who really understand; a 14-year-old just getting into mulling isn't gonna take notice of a term as prosaic as "mental health".
So though it's no revelation to most of you fossils reading, it's a message that bears repeating and often if you're ever sharing the peace pipe with the youngsters ... give the hydro a swerve boys and girls.
Yes, choofin' can be a lot of fun, you'll get no argument from me, but if you're going to have the odd joint or cone, stick with naturally grown weed - and stop when the voices start.
If you'd like to email me with a topic suggestion or just vent, try here. I now have more than 800 unanswered emails and no hope of catching up. So I'm instituting a no-reply policy (unless you're cute) because I'm sick of feeling guilty about it. In advance, I thank you for your email.
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Posted April 18, 2007 12:04 AM
LATEST COMMENTSThere was a great article on hydroponic dope in the Age (maybe Good Weekend?) a while back. I knew all about hydro's effects (my brother was a bigtime conehead for many years), but had no idea about its production until I read that article. The article even mentioned one grower liberally spraying extra flyspray on the final product because it gave it a more "fuzzy" look that was appealing to the customers.
The pesticides issue is a really nasty one. Pesticides typically contain aromatic compounds such as pyrethrins, and when you burn them in a pipe/bong you get reactions that will produce REALLY nasty chemicals - stuff you DON'T want to be deeply inhaling, stuff like benzene, dienes, etc. I have a colleague who once worked in an insecticide factory, and he told me that burning insecticides are very toxic indeed.
Posted by: Greg Adams at April 17, 2007 9:32 PM
duh.....pot no did me no harm
wot....the walls are singing
Posted by: deleuze at April 17, 2007 10:15 PM
I used to love my Mary-Jane, but after several years of indulging in the lovely feeling, it got to a point where I just didn't enjoy it any more. But even when I did enjoy it, hydros were just too harsh. They knocked you straight on your ass and you could barely function. I never really thought that was fun.
I think the boys from South Park said it best when they said, "the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored -- and it's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."
Posted by: Mike D at April 17, 2007 10:46 PM
Well I hereby out myself. I've had experiences of the same order of magnitude as Sam's.
Everything he says is dead right. Hydros used to be the thing but these days everyone wants the outdoor stuff grown well from a good strain. Far, far nicer buzz than the hydros, probably for the reasons postulated here.
But it is an addictive drug which severely affects you after heavy or long term use, and affects your cognitive ability - the thing that, when you get down to it is really the most valuable tool we all have. So stick clear of the heavy use, or any kind of every day or even every second day use.
Posted by: JC at April 17, 2007 11:34 PM
Posted by: Mike D at April 17, 2007 10:46 PM
PS - Mike D; agree. That South Park quote always stuck with me too as getting to the essence of pot's negative side.
Posted by: JC at April 17, 2007 11:37 PM
i also had quite a few mates go down 'back in the day'. in part the hydro, and in part the hallucinogens, it was not unusual to hear someone was 'in hospital' or seeing a psychologist to deal with the instability (and in some cases psychosis).
i agree that, in theory, it is a good idea to stop if you start to notice psychological changes, but this is so much easier said than done.
marajuana is a massively addictive drug. i have spent ten years battling it, and i will still smoke it any evening it is in my possession (something to do with insomnia also...)
it would be fair to say that i have an addictive personality, but alcohol, tobacco and other assorted drugs have never had the hold on me
the Age has been on an anti-cannabis crusade for a number of years..here's their latest hysterical nonsense
http://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/allmenareliars/archives/2007/04/marijuana_is_no.html
Marijuana is not safe
Print Normal font Large font Before we get into this, let me say I've smoked more dope than 95 per cent of you reading this; guaranteed.
For close to 20 years I inhaled leaf, tip, buds, bush heads, hydro, chocolate buddha, simsinella, Mexican dirt weed, power skunk, Maui wowie, black hash, brown hash, green hash, hash oil, the putty out of downpipes, I've even ground up seeds and stems and smoked them.
I've cooked with pot, eaten it in cakes, brownies, banana bread and straight off the plant, I've drunk it in thick shakes and smoothies, teas, bongwater and, once, smeared resin on my eyeballs because someone told me it would get me stoned (didn't work).
I've grown it, stolen in, given it away, traded it for a wetsuit, even pretended it was parsley and kangaroo shit when selling it.
So, please don't tell me I'm anti-dope; I just reckon it's time that people, in an attempt to sound enlightened, stop telling the world that marijuana is harmless, when anyone who's been around it for long enough knows that's not true ...
I dunno whether you've ever heard voices after taking drugs but I have, several times, and it used to be what I paid good money for.
The problem was, as my drug career deepened and lengthened, those pesky head noises would appear after just one cone of hydro; and there's the rub.
Hydro, or hydroponically-grown marijuana is everywhere nowadays; it's the dope of choice for younger smokers, because nothing else delivers the punch and the value for money like a knuckle of super-sticky buds out of some bikie's basement grow-room.
If you've ever seen a hydro set-up, you'll know they get hot and humid and are a magnet for every type of bug and insect within a kilometre; which is why a lot of growers hit their plants with a cocktail of pesticides and fungicides that make Agent Orange look like Ventolin.
This means the plants, and the buds kids smoke, are also chock full of those pesticides, as well as fertilisers chosen by growers whose knowledge of chemicals and their effect on the human brain is limited to "this shit hammers you".
My dope smoking career spanned the popularistion of hydro, and I remember quite distinctly when, at high school, blokes started turning up with superskunk that put the bush buds we used to choof to shame.
We flew at it like moths to a flame, or more accurately lemmings over a cliff.
I left high school in 1986, and, of the 160 guys in my class, 10 or 11 I know of, all hydro smokers, developed mental problems. Some, like me, were smart enough to take their foot off the accelerator, but at least one's killed himself and another three have been institutionalised.
My generation is the first to have had a widespread and prolonged exposure to hydro and as we get older, I can tell you, the human wreckage isn't pretty.
The link between marijuana use and mental problems has been written about many times before , but there's still a persistent mindset among a lot of younger users I talk to that dope is natural, "it's a herb" and it's "better for you than tobacco", which is just not the case with hydro.
The problem with writing something like this is it's only the people who've been there and smoked it who really understand; a 14-year-old just getting into mulling isn't gonna take notice of a term as prosaic as "mental health".
So though it's no revelation to most of you fossils reading, it's a message that bears repeating and often if you're ever sharing the peace pipe with the youngsters ... give the hydro a swerve boys and girls.
Yes, choofin' can be a lot of fun, you'll get no argument from me, but if you're going to have the odd joint or cone, stick with naturally grown weed - and stop when the voices start.
If you'd like to email me with a topic suggestion or just vent, try here. I now have more than 800 unanswered emails and no hope of catching up. So I'm instituting a no-reply policy (unless you're cute) because I'm sick of feeling guilty about it. In advance, I thank you for your email.
- All Men Are Liars fully has MySpace, eh?
- More of All Men Are Liars
- More Age blogs
Posted April 18, 2007 12:04 AM
LATEST COMMENTSThere was a great article on hydroponic dope in the Age (maybe Good Weekend?) a while back. I knew all about hydro's effects (my brother was a bigtime conehead for many years), but had no idea about its production until I read that article. The article even mentioned one grower liberally spraying extra flyspray on the final product because it gave it a more "fuzzy" look that was appealing to the customers.
The pesticides issue is a really nasty one. Pesticides typically contain aromatic compounds such as pyrethrins, and when you burn them in a pipe/bong you get reactions that will produce REALLY nasty chemicals - stuff you DON'T want to be deeply inhaling, stuff like benzene, dienes, etc. I have a colleague who once worked in an insecticide factory, and he told me that burning insecticides are very toxic indeed.
Posted by: Greg Adams at April 17, 2007 9:32 PM
duh.....pot no did me no harm
wot....the walls are singing
Posted by: deleuze at April 17, 2007 10:15 PM
I used to love my Mary-Jane, but after several years of indulging in the lovely feeling, it got to a point where I just didn't enjoy it any more. But even when I did enjoy it, hydros were just too harsh. They knocked you straight on your ass and you could barely function. I never really thought that was fun.
I think the boys from South Park said it best when they said, "the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored -- and it's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."
Posted by: Mike D at April 17, 2007 10:46 PM
Well I hereby out myself. I've had experiences of the same order of magnitude as Sam's.
Everything he says is dead right. Hydros used to be the thing but these days everyone wants the outdoor stuff grown well from a good strain. Far, far nicer buzz than the hydros, probably for the reasons postulated here.
But it is an addictive drug which severely affects you after heavy or long term use, and affects your cognitive ability - the thing that, when you get down to it is really the most valuable tool we all have. So stick clear of the heavy use, or any kind of every day or even every second day use.
Posted by: JC at April 17, 2007 11:34 PM
Posted by: Mike D at April 17, 2007 10:46 PM
PS - Mike D; agree. That South Park quote always stuck with me too as getting to the essence of pot's negative side.
Posted by: JC at April 17, 2007 11:37 PM
i also had quite a few mates go down 'back in the day'. in part the hydro, and in part the hallucinogens, it was not unusual to hear someone was 'in hospital' or seeing a psychologist to deal with the instability (and in some cases psychosis).
i agree that, in theory, it is a good idea to stop if you start to notice psychological changes, but this is so much easier said than done.
marajuana is a massively addictive drug. i have spent ten years battling it, and i will still smoke it any evening it is in my possession (something to do with insomnia also...)
it would be fair to say that i have an addictive personality, but alcohol, tobacco and other assorted drugs have never had the hold on me
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