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Marijuana is a major cash crop

Marijuana is a major cash crop
Friday 02 May 2008

Coffee shops where small amounts of cannabis can be bought, contributed some €400m to the treasury a year, according to estimates by tv programme Reporter.

The country’s 700 coffee shops are responsible for selling some 265,000 kgs of soft drugs a year, mostly Dutch-grown marijuana, Reporter says. This means turnover in the sector is some €2bn a year.

The programme also estimates some 5,500 plantations were destroyed by police last year. Between 20% and 40% of local production is sold in the Netherlands, the rest exported abroad, largely to Germany and Britain.

Police chief Max Daniel told the KRO programme that that marijuana is the Netherlands second or third-biggest cash crop after cucumbers and tomatoes.

In a programme to be broadcast on Sunday night, Reporter also looks at the amount of (illegal) fertisers and heavy metals found in Dutch-grown marijuana.


© DutchNews.nl

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/05/marijuana_is_a_major_cash_crop.php
 

Cronus

New member
Just think what they could do with some good marijuana!

Illegal fertilizers and heavy metals? I'll pass on that.

I have NEVER had marijuana in the 'Dam that was as good as outdoor Northern California herb, and that is after sampling some 60+ shops.

The hash that makes it to the 'Dam is all second grade now, the good stuff stays in Morocco, Lebanon, Afghanistan etc.

Cronus
 
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British_Bulldog

Cronus said:
I have NEVER had marijuana in the 'Dam that was as good as outdoor Northern California herb, and that is after sampling some 60+ shops.

And you probably never will - you're talking about some of the best herb in the world. However, high grade can be found in the 'dam if you know where to look.

Cronus said:
The hash that makes it to the 'Dam is all second grade now, the good stuff stays in Morocco, Lebanon, Afghanistan etc.

On this one, you're way off base - the very highest grades of hash, especially Moroccan, can be found in A'dam, again if you know where to look.
 
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Guest

I just checked this thread and had to say that everytime I go back to Cali from the NE, the damn weed seems better and we have tons of great shit here like in A-dam.Must be psycology or climate.I can't believe how many grow ops they busted in Holland.Seems strange, but so does everything.
 

Rosy Cheeks

dancin' cheek to cheek
Veteran
prepress420 said:
In a programme to be broadcast on Sunday night, Reporter also looks at the amount of (illegal) fertisers and heavy metals found in Dutch-grown marijuana.

Lol. It's often hilarious when cops or reporters who hasn't got a clue what they're talking about (or simply want to scare the average joe shitless) shoots their mouths about Cannabis.

What "illegal" fertilizers could he possibly be talking about? Special super-ferts smuggled from Chernobyl?

If this reporter hack had even bothered to talk to growers, he would know that most of them use the highest quality nutes you can find on the market, the same brands Dutch tomato growers use.

Heavy metals (that is, toxic ones) are sometimes a problem in certain types of industrial agriculture (Cadmium from rock phosphates, for instance). But most Cannabis grows are small operations, and do not use industrial fertilizers. Organic nutrients often contain high amounts of Cd, when made from animal manure and biosolids, but in what respect does Cannbis growers deserve to be particularly diabolized for using organic nutrients? It's the big thing in agriculture and horticulture today, everybody uses them, and the food crop producers should be first in line to receive criticism in that case.

I suspect these assholes are simply breaking wind, but I would like to see this programme first before I thrash it.

Could someone please post it on youtube? It might be the comedy show of the week...
 
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British_Bulldog

Rosy, I hear ya, and I was going to post the same.

I think maybe illegal pesticides could be an issue though, such as Vertimec/Avid (abamectin).


Peace
 

Cronus

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British_Bulldog said:
And you probably never will - you're talking about some of the best herb in the world. However, high grade can be found in the 'dam if you know where to look.



On this one, you're way off base - the very highest grades of hash, especially Moroccan, can be found in A'dam, again if you know where to look.

Ha! The only "high grade" I had was from Soma or Derry's personal stash. And even if it is "high grade", by the time the shops tumble the kif off the buds it's not so special. This is the shops dirty little secret, and the source of all the kif you see the dealers carrying around.

I respectfully disagree with you on the hashish. Ask the folks who smuggle it, the really good stuff stays in Morocco etc. Once in a great while a place like The Grey Area will get something special like Golden Soles, other than that it is mostly all just commercial grade. Granted, if all you can get is soapbar, or maybe not even that, then the hashish in the 'Dam will probably rock your world. If however you have had good hashish before you will be disappointed.

Would you send your headstash to the 'Dam? Well neither would the growers from the Rif valley or Helmand province.

Just my opinion, formed after lots of study with smugglers, growers and shop owners in the 'Dam.

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British_Bulldog

Cronus,

I'm not talking about shop bought hash, although some shops do have 1st grade - the Royal Moroccan at Toermalijn in Tilburg for example - that was completely clean under the microscope, and smoked extremely well.

I do know what I'm talking about, and am not some starry-eyed soapbar smoker.

I'm talking about the underground scene in the Netherlands.

Here are some pics of some Caramello, 2 different samples, one photographed by me, and one by Ganja Pasha here at ICMag.

Also, if you look in the 420 Cup 2008 threads, you will see many pics of 1st grade hash from Morocco, and also from Nepal - ALL were completely clean of contamination under 100x scope, and smoked like heaven.

The producers DO send their best to the Netherlands - you are obviously not aware of the real scene. Connoisseurs know where to go and what to get ;)


Peace
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Cronus

New member
Cronus,

I do know what I'm talking about, and am not some starry-eyed soapbar smoker.

Here are some pics of some Caramello, 2 different samples, one photographed by me, and one by Ganja Pasha here at ICMag.

The producers DO send their best to the Netherlands - you are obviously not aware of the real scene. Connoisseurs know where to go and what to get ;)


BB...

I never said you were a soapbar smoker friend. My point is that very little of the very top grade hashish makes it to the 'Dam any longer. What more proof do you need than the actual producer telling you he keeps his top grade for headstash?

How about this quote from a Reuters story about Lebanese hashish production being at an all time high: Because of the high price and limited amount produced, hashish of this quality rarely leaves the country where it was produced.
They do however have lots of lesser quality hashish for export.

There will always be gems here and there, and indeed that Caramello looks very tasty. But if you want the best hashish head to Morocco or India. Afghanistan and Lebanon are also good but very dangerous. Northern California dry sieved hashish is also top notch. These are the places true connoisseurs travel to, not the Netherlands.

Just my two cents. :smile:

Cronus
 
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British_Bulldog

Cronus, I hear you and used to think that myself, but why put myself in danger and go to those dodgy Third World countries, and not even find the best, as I don't know anyone, when I can go to the Netherlands and get the best anyway?

It doesn't make sense to go on a hippy trail when knowing who I know in the Netherlands gets all the 1st grades anyway.

Btw: I know what 1st grade is because I know people who've worked on Moroccan hash farms and brought back - and the quality of what I can get in the Netherlands is often better anyhow.

I was also invited to work on a hash farm myself, but couldn't make it - however, it is high risk, and I'd rather stay in Europe.

Maybe if you make it to the Netherlands sometime, and I'm there too, we can meet up and smoke some of these fine 1st grades, and then you'll agree that you won't find any better in Morocco, Nepal, etc.


Peace
 
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Rosy Cheeks

dancin' cheek to cheek
Veteran
A friend with a contact in the Rif says that police and military that formerly "looked away" are now busting cultivations. Apparently a new drive from Moroccoan King Mohammed.

Of course Rif farmers will hold on to their best produce, but you can still get some of it in Holland. Don't underestimate the power of money. The French used to export their crappiest wines to England and drink the best stuff themselves. Now they export it to the US and Japan.

Amsterdam is repeatedly getting bad publicity in the forums, mainly from American kids that now the Cali med club scene well (I'm not referring to anyone in this thread). The stumble into A-dam, smoke some cash cropper weed in a coffeeshop and realize it's pretty average quality.
Which is normal, because the average tourist coffeeshop visitor is just a douche from a neighboring European country or the US that wants to get hammered over the weekend. He doesn't know anything about quality weed or hash, he just want to get blasted, and that's what he get.

In Amsterdam it's just like anywhere else. There are burger joints and connoisseur clubs. You have to know your way around, you have to know what door to open and what to ask for, and you can get just about anything from anywhere in the world.
 
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British_Bulldog

That's right Rosy - I'll admit it's very difficult to find the highest grades unless you're very much in the know in the Netherlands. The shops mostly don't have the best grades, but they do exist in the underground.

However, high grade can also be found in some coffeeshops, but usually away from Amsterdam (at reasonable prices anyway - 1st grades in the Dam are rare and very expensive in comparison).


Chaco - soapbar is highly contaminated Moroccan 'hash', unfortunately mixed with things like henna, boot polish, diesel fuel, animal tranquilisers, anything in fact, and smoked by ignorant smokers in the UK, France and Italy mainly.


Peace
 

neuroherb

Member
DROOOOOL. What a thing to do to somebody early in the day with no stash :(

I'll take a bit of everything you have there Mr Haze, nice looking hash :)
 

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