Manifestations of Hermi....

[NoNameNoshame]

I've only seen hermis about 4 times now.

Other than chemical influence....I'd like folks to share their hermi experiences...how old the plant was, what the hermi looked like, the path the grower chose, the outcome of the plant/plants.

I believe {may remember otherwise} 3 of the 4 hermi's I encountered in my brief history with cannabis plants......showed clear separate male and female parts...and as preflowers.

What got me thinking was finding two signs of hermi on two separate masterlow plants. One is clear and separate male female preflowers.

However, on one plant {the largest too} the hermi was some bananas coming out of a calyx......which I've seen in pictures but usually much later in flower....the bud sites haven't even achieved cotton ball stage.

So this makes me wonder......maybe not such a sad thing, maybe not a bad thing.........usually a freaky thing....other than rodelization.....but that only happens, as far as I'm aware of, very late in flowering.....past harvest window...and when no seeds had been set.

So, come one folks.............let me hear something.

 

[Guest]

a hermie will bust balls and pistols at the same time...a very common trait.

 

[NoNameNoshame]

a hermie will bust balls and pistols at the same time...a very common trait.

Now is that in the same spot or separate........guess I'm trying to understand just how many different ways a plant can hermi.

Let me be more specific.......I've seen bananas come out of a calyx and then out of it's own flowers/ball.............why the difference? Would their be different outcomes of their pollen since they came from the plant in different ways?

 

[Guest]

well..it really matters what sex shows first...if its a male and then later develops pistols, then you can expect the pollen to have a higher female ratio but still a slight hermie tendancy will remain. Vice versa..a female shows first and then balls pop out then i believe the pollen to be not as stable. Yes, the pistols and balls will form on the same crotch- sometimes intertwined with eachother. If nanners pop in mid flowering on the calyx then i would suspect any stress factors..late in flower is sometimes normal with sativa based strains.

 

[Guest]

Well I've only had one hermi and it showed male an female traits at the same time it probably would have shown male preflowers first but I sent them into flower early so they appeared at the same time. It was also the biggest and most vigerous plant of the grow. It showed true male pollen sacks on the lower nodes and female at teh top and we let it go another two weeks and it started showing male in with the buds so I just pulled it.

Also the banannas aren't nessecarily male parts those are 99% female even though they are technically pollen sacks but like I said they only produce pollen with the female chromozone meaning they only produce female seeds. They are actually a last resort by the plant to produce seeds because none or little of the calyxes are pollinated, so banannas are actually a female part not a hermi.

 

[NoNameNoshame]

Well I've only had one hermi and it showed male an female traits at the same time it probably would have shown male preflowers first but I sent them into flower early so they appeared at the same time. It was also the biggest and most vigerous plant of the grow. It showed true male pollen sacks on the lower nodes and female at teh top and we let it go another two weeks and it started showing male in with the buds so I just pulled it.

Also the banannas aren't nessecarily male parts those are 99% female even though they are technically pollen sacks but like I said they only produce pollen with the female chromozone meaning they only produce female seeds. They are actually a last resort by the plant to produce seeds because none or little of the calyxes are pollinated, so banannas are actually a female part not a hermi.

That last bit is actually what got me to start the thread. I found nanners coming out of a preflower calyx.....the plant isn't even at the cotton ball stage.......just ending stretch and should swing into the cotton stage.

I noticed the nanners and pulled them...no ball...just coming out of a split in the calyx.........

So I started thinking I never seen that before and wondered, sadly, if it could have been mostly female genes....although so early.......and I didn't want to risk creating hermi seeds at large numbers so I did what I did....

 

[Green Relic]

i just had a clone go hermi on me..it was taken about two weeks into flowering
along *is very depressed at the moment* with two other plants, one turned male(killed it) the other died due to root fungus this batch didnt go well at all.
so the story...my first plant was afghani#1 got lucky with a female cloned it two weeks into flower now we have a mother plant. we cloned the mother and was very sweet to it..i cant think of anything that i did different that would make it turn
but i know it was off a female plant and now she has balls and hairs. both showed up at the same time...now..do i want to keep it and have a house full of pollen and maybe get femi seeds? or do i kill it, start over and not have to worry about pollen being all over the grow room?..ive been thinking and i think the plants gotta go !#$%@!#$%!#$%!@#$%!#$%!@#$%!#$% thanks for listening
one very sad person
Relic

 

[Guest]

So I started thinking I never seen that before and wondered, sadly, if it could have been mostly female genes....although so early.......and I didn't want to risk creating hermi seeds at large numbers so I did what I did....

Yea nanners are all female some are even sterile but that early its a good thing you pulled it, you may have ended up with a seed crop, female seeds but none the less thats not waht you are growing for.

Relic if every clone you took did that you may want to junk the mom but I don't really see what is happening to her, I'm not a believer of the light leak causing hermi's myth(I think thats a scape goat for seed companies and breeders to take the blame off then and on to the grower) but you may want to double check everything and see if it turns out better, so try again and if it happens after the check I would junk it.

As far as the nanner beans go I just sprouted some of mine and there coming along slowly(its cold here) but I'll let you know more when they get further along, there watermelon skunk just to make you guys jealous

 

[NoNameNoshame]

Yup, Watermelon skunk would do it!
Definitely keep updates on that, any links?

 

[Guest]

I don't really post pics but I may on another site if I do I'll send you the link, I can post annonamously there.

 

[Guest]

BTW I'm having one hell of a time germing these beans the cold weather here is fucking up my process but some are coming along I actually resorted to shelling but its working, I've got 72 planted so I plan on doing alot of culling, not only melon but a few other collected seeds.