Male not shedding pollen?

[NoNameNoshame]

Male MasterLow


If it was a female it would be "done" beginning of May. Some balls have opened with male bananas coming out.......some have even fallen off.

The bananas are green.....no yellow dust {pollen}.

Any clues.......to early?

 

[Guest423]

looks early to me, doesn't look like the sacs have swollen up like they do before they release pollen but it has happened to me when i grew skunk#1 aka (sweet#1)...i had that male in bloom for a month and it never released....the sacs would swell and open with no pollen....i couldn't figure it out either but i didn't mind...i didn't want sweet#1 seeds anyway.

 

[Guest]

may bee there should be a lady next to him...some plants need some stimulation..lol peace


i have two seeds of island sweet skunk that i got out of a bag i picked up going rite now..two really small seeds

 

[HarryNugz]

it would be nice to find out why this happens. i had a very dark purple male that didn't release any pollen as well. check my gallery.

 

[Guest]

im sure its for the reason i said...the lady is not present and he knows it

 

[HarryNugz]

i seriously doubt that as he had several females to choose from! good guess though!

 

[Guest]

maybee he was gay..lol

 

[Guest]

http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/content/full/131/3/1270

Numerous plant hormones interact during plant growth and development. Elucidating the role of these various hormones on particular tissue types or developmental stages has been difficult with exogenous applications or constitutive expression studies. Therefore, we used tissue-specific promoters expressing CKX1 and gai, genes involved in oxidative cytokinin degradation and gibberellin (GA) signal transduction, respectively, to study the roles of cytokinin and GA in male organ development. Accumulation of CKX1 in reproductive tissues of transgenic maize (Zea mays) resulted in male-sterile plants. The male development of these plants was restored by applications of kinetin and thidiazuron. Similarly, expression of gai specifically in anthers and pollen of tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum) and Arabidopsis resulted in the abortion of these respective tissues. The gai-induced male-sterile phenotype exhibited by the transgenic plants was reversible by exogenous applications of kinetin. Our results provide molecular evidence of the involvement of cytokinin and GA in male development and support the hypothesis that the male development is controlled in concert by multiple hormones. These studies also suggest a potential method for generating maintainable male sterility in plants by using existing agrochemicals that would reduce the expense of seed production for existing hybrid crops and provide a method to produce hybrid varieties of traditionally non-hybrid crops.

 

[emmy75]

im still waiting for the pollen sacks to open on my male. lookin to make some NL seeds. commin up on week 3 in flower for one of my girls. took the male two weeks ago. those balls just arent ready to burst yet

 

[wildheart]

Male bizzarness...

Male bizzarness...

Hi all,

I recently grew out 10 beans from Legends, a great seed company IMHO, of DJ Shorts Blueberry, got 9 males and one fucked up female. Long story short, male never dropped pollen from from the pods - blew my fuckin mind as I've been growing for years and have never seen this. Apparently, according to this thread others have begun to see this same thing.

This is an issue of pretty huge concern and hopefully it is a very unusual thing that is only seen once in a blue moon. I have been growing males for pollen collection for 15 years and have never seen this until now. Hard for me to give the 'no female present' idea much juice, I just can't see it. My blueberry male was in a room on 12/12 and surrounded by females until the first balls began to open - within 24 hours many others had as well - let go for another month and not a SINGLE GRAIN OF POLLEN!!!

My guess is that unfortunate reality - too much very low quality cannabis breeding has been going for over 30 years now leading to a pretty messy gene pool and what I figure unfortunately is alot of gentic instability. I'm not talking about people who know what they are doing - the vast MINORITY of them out there, I'm talking about all the norcal dopegrowers who have been trading their pollen with their neighbors for the last twenty to fourty years, very few of them ever having read a book about genetics, or having even the slightest clue as to what they are doing, other than 'making seed' for next year. What a great approach as year after year the quality slowly inches lower.

Oh well!

 

[NoNameNoshame]

Thanks for all the responses everyone,

The male is now snuggling with the female.....the masterlows are my biggest plants.

I just discovered two other males, a OG s1 male {sativa pheno} and an Indica looking Arjan's Haze x NL#5 x Haze...........wonder if they need snuggling to.

I am still hoping to get some empty nail polish applicators for pollen.....The only male I've ever made seed with was a small powerstout male.....he was with the ladies when a sack dropped pollen.........maybe that theory holds a lot of truth.

 

[NoNameNoshame]

Got a nice little bump of pollen on my thumbnail today!

 

[Blackmelo]

there is no way that that plant would be done by the beginning of may if it was female...

It looks 3 weeks old. I would vegg it for another 4 weeks minimum(if female) and then flower for another 8 weeks. In my books it would be done by beginning of July.

No wonder you haven't got any pollen yet is all i can say.

Give it 4 more weeks. Any pollen you squeeze out now is most likely not going to be ready yet.

 

[HarryNugz]

I've only experienced sterile males in the dark purple blackberry males. The lighter purple males haven't shown this sterility problem as of yet.

 

[NoNameNoshame]

there is no way that that plant would be done by the beginning of may if it was female...

It looks 3 weeks old. I would vegg it for another 4 weeks minimum(if female) and then flower for another 8 weeks. In my books it would be done by beginning of July.

No wonder you haven't got any pollen yet is all i can say.

Give it 4 more weeks. Any pollen you squeeze out now is most likely not going to be ready yet.

It's an autoflower, ten weeks from sprout....so yes, may 5th. I can't veg it longer as stated the plant is an auto. Well, I have gotten pollen, a lot of pollen....some is even stored in a small glass vial.

 

[Verite]

How come it doesnt look like from the first pics that they are flowering?

 

[LatinThug]

looks early to me, doesn't look like the sacs have swollen up like they do before they release pollen but it has happened to me when i grew skunk#1 aka (sweet#1)...i had that male in bloom for a month and it never released....the sacs would swell and open with no pollen....i couldn't figure it out either but i didn't mind...i didn't want sweet#1 seeds anyway.

i have two seeds of island sweet skunk that i got out of a bag i picked up going rite now..two really small seeds

Just thought i would post this info. I got 4 island sweet kids (all female) going (3 bagseed crosses and 1 inbreed). they are about 3 weeks into it right now and have started producing male sacs. But none of those sacs have any pollen being produced. im not complaining i just think it is wierd.

also i have only messed with the light schedule twice (moving the 12/12 cycle at different points during the day, to better fit my schedule).

I have seen many people say it is a light issue but i however think it is a genetics issue. my last 2 runs did the same thing (they were smaller plants so less sacs) and when i tried an inbred male the pollen did not work on any plants i tried to seed, either ISS or other.