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Looks like under watering, but isn't

Styles

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These plants are about 40 days from seed. Plants are still in veg. Problem has been going on for about a week and a half to 2 weeks. Leaves are droopy and don't feel normal At first I was thinking it was under/over watering but I made sure to water perfect so I know it isn't that. Hopefully someone has some insight on what the problem might be as well as how to fix it. Any help is appreciated, thanks.






 

Jefferson

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Looks like a PH issue to me. Test your water with no nutes. Water, then test your runoff. That will isolate the issue. You should be sitting around 6. :joint:
 

stinkyattic

her dankness
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Try to get pics under more natural light instead of the HPS for 'real' color.
If that's soilless mix, you actually want to set your pH closer to 6.6.
When's the last time you re-potted, what are your temps, and how is your air flow?
 

m@rg

go on .. pull my finger
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i think you had better fill out the sick plant form ,so we can get a better picture
its not worth taking a shot in the dark about the problem

i guess uve all seen it a thousand times already -
 

Styles

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How long has this problem been going on? 1 and a half to 2 weeks
What STRAIN are you growing? Big Blue, Mendo Madness, XXX
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) Seed
What is the age of your plants? 40 days
How Tall are the plants? 6 inches to 16 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? vegetative
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) None
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 3 gallon, 1 per por
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) Using Promix
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* FloraNova Grow, FloraMicro, and used Advanced Nutrients Revive once about 3 weeks ago to correct small mag problem.
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? No idea
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? No idea
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? N/A
How often are you watering? When needed, usually every 3 - 4 days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? Been feeding every watering
What size bulb are you using? 2 x 600w
What is the distance to the canopy? 6 - 7 inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 50% - 60%
What is the canopy temperature? 72F
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) 75F - 65F
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) Outtake - around 700CFM Intake - 250CFM
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? No
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? No
Is your water HARD or SOFT? Don't know
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Tap water
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? No
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? No
Are plant's infected with pest's? No
 

DIGITALHIPPY

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your plants look fine, thats a slight p or k toxicity if i remember correctly.
i wouldnt do anything, that symptom usualy goes away as the plants grow (atleast in my plants/experiance)
 

RetroGrow

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I would transplant a couple to 5 gallon pots with fresh soil with dolomite lime, and see how they respond.
 
Excess Calcium

Excess Calcium

Styles said:
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* FloraNova Grow, FloraMicro, and used Advanced Nutrients Revive once about 3 weeks ago to correct small mag problem.

What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Tap water
Why are you adding micro to the flora nova? Micro contains alot of calcium. Your tap water will contain some calcium. Flora nova contains calcium. Promix contains dolomite lime with calcium at least at the beginning. Excess calcium will cause a magnesium (like you think has already happened) or boron deficiency. It could cause a potassium deficiency but that is less likely. Stop using the micro.

8 Flora Nova grow. Flora Nova is the one bottle solution to nutrients, note this mix is almost identical to Canna Aqua Vega, and GrowGreen's Nute Recipe
n 217
p 54
k 257
Mg 46

Thats 8ml in 1 gallon water in ppms. Don't understand. No problem. You want to feed about 100 to 150 ppm nitrogen with every watering. Example: you want 150ppm n. 150/217 x 8 ml = 5.52ml per 1 gallon so about 1 teaspoon per gallon. Remember to really shake before pouring.

Ph is important! Optimum ph in a soilless mix like promix is 5.6 to 6.2 Best thing is to adjust your fert water ph up or down after adding floranova to 5.8 to 6

ppm numbers borrowed from Lucas...

:smoker:
 

Styles

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Buzz Lightyear said:
Why are you adding micro to the flora nova? Micro contains alot of calcium. Your tap water will contain some calcium. Flora nova contains calcium. Promix contains dolomite lime with calcium at least at the beginning. Excess calcium will cause a magnesium (like you think has already happened) or boron deficiency. It could cause a potassium deficiency but that is less likely. Stop using the micro.



Thats 8ml in 1 gallon water in ppms. Don't understand. No problem. You want to feed about 100 to 150 ppm nitrogen with every watering. Example: you want 150ppm n. 150/217 x 8 ml = 5.52ml per 1 gallon so about 1 teaspoon per gallon. Remember to really shake before pouring.

Ph is important! Optimum ph in a soilless mix like promix is 5.6 to 6.2 Best thing is to adjust your fert water ph up or down after adding floranova to 5.8 to 6

ppm numbers borrowed from Lucas...

:smoker:

I've been using around 5ml per gallon. Tested water though and my tap water is around 8 PH, so it probably is a pH problem. I was kind of confused about it though because I have 2 other rooms that I also water with tap water, and theres no problem. But I will bring down the pH next watering and post results. Thanks to everyone for their help.
 
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