Live Rosin Solventless Extraction Tutorials/ Step By Step Guides?

[oaktree]

Hey IG Mag Fam,

It's been a loooooong time since I've posted here but I'm getting back into growing and I'm wondering if anyone has any links/videos for a step by step guide to making live rosin? I'm relatively new to live rosin. I used the oil carts back in the day, but moved away from because they seemed iffy. Then I went back to vaping flower, which was fine but the flavor just isn't the same so a buddy of mine was preaching about badder/wax/shatter and the taste was amazing, so after a while I moved over to live rosin. I have a few different strains i've picked up from my local dispensaries and I'd love to be able to replicate the consistency when I harvest and process this summer. I have three examples and they're all different. One is more like a rock and crumbles, one is super sticky and taffy like (the darkest one), and the other is kind of in between.

I did a search but didn't quite find what I was looking for. At the bottom of this page is a video (https://www.leafly.com/learn/cannabis-glossary/live-rosin) but they're using some fancy machines at the end and I'll just be doing this at home.

Any help/guidance would be much appreciated, thank you!

 

[dogzter]

Get a press with good plates I use a dabpress.
Then decide how exactly you want to process it.
I tumble dry material then press the kieff for full melt rosin.
Really simple process or extremely complicated its up to you.

 

[oaktree]

Get a press with good plates I use a dabpress.
Then decide how exactly you want to process it.
I tumble dry material then press the kieff for full melt rosin.
Really simple process or extremely complicated its up to you.

Thanks Dogzter. I thought I saw somewhere you can cut it fresh and then use dry ice?

 

[the_niño]

I thought if it was live rosin it would come from fresh frozen bubble hash that was then pressed to rosin?

 

[oaktree]

I thought if it was live rosin it would come from fresh frozen bubble hash that was then pressed to rosin?

This is why I’m posting. I’m trying to figure out the exact steps from cutting to pressing.

This is what I found:

1. Cannabis is cut down, the fan leaves are removed, and the flowers are frozen before any drying takes place.

- How do you freeze the buds? Simply put them in the freezer? Or do you need to freeze dry them?

2. Extractors will wash the freshly frozen cannabis buds into bubble hash, filter the hash, and then freeze-dry it.

- so just buy bubble hash bags and agitate the frozen buds in ice water?

3. After the fresh frozen derived bubble hash is dried, it's then pressed into rosin and provides one of the best highs and terpene profile of any concentrate.

- then press it with heat between 160 - 220 degrees?

I’m literally looking for a step by step how to for dummies type of run down.

 

[dogzter]

This is why I’m posting. I’m trying to figure out the exact steps from cutting to pressing.

This is what I found:

1. Cannabis is cut down, the fan leaves are removed, and the flowers are frozen before any drying takes place.

- How do you freeze the buds? Simply put them in the freezer? Or do you need to freeze dry them?

2. Extractors will wash the freshly frozen cannabis buds into bubble hash, filter the hash, and then freeze-dry it.

- so just buy bubble hash bags and agitate the frozen buds in ice water?

3. After the fresh frozen derived bubble hash is dried, it's then pressed into rosin and provides one of the best highs and terpene profile of any concentrate.

- then press it with heat between 160 - 220 degrees?

I’m literally looking for a step by step how to for dummies type of run down.

Most of the guys I know doing live rosin are working with large volumes of outdoor.
Only way to make it feasible as the returns are pretty low.

 

[dogzter]

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[Szkoła Zioła]

This guy has pretty good explanation for home process:

FullMeltxTractions

If you are looking for a simple method to follow to make the best possible Full Melt Bubble Hash/Live Rosin, you've come to the right place. We offer a complete guide to our method, in book and video form, get the free PDF manual at the following link...

www.youtube.com

I learned from this, modified a little and I make this: https://www.icmag.com/threads/my-best-wpff-hash-rosin-so-far-jelly-donutz.18133649/

Here is my video about harvesting for WPFF. I will do step-by-step WPFF bubble hash and rosin videos, but it will take me few more months. It's in Polish - but there are English subtitles available
YouTube harvesting for WPFF hash video

 

[oaktree]

This guy has pretty good explanation for home process:

FullMeltxTractions

If you are looking for a simple method to follow to make the best possible Full Melt Bubble Hash/Live Rosin, you've come to the right place. We offer a complete guide to our method, in book and video form, get the free PDF manual at the following link...

www.youtube.com

I learned from this, modified a little and I make this: https://www.icmag.com/threads/my-best-wpff-hash-rosin-so-far-jelly-donutz.18133649/

Here is my video about harvesting for WPFF. I will do step-by-step WPFF bubble hash and rosin videos, but it will take me few more months. It's in Polish - but there are English subtitles available
YouTube harvesting for WPFF hash video

This looks great! Thank you!

I'm still a ways away from even starting my grow. I'll be growing outdoors so I still have about 2 months before I even germinate my seeds. I'll keep any eye out for those videos. They sound like they'd be really helpful.

 

[Cactus Squatter]

Most of the guys I know doing live rosin are working with large volumes of outdoor.
Only way to make it feasible as the returns are pretty low.

This is my experience. Doing fresh frozen with little indoor plants is extremely disappointing yield wise. I can get a lot more from straight pressing the dried flower or running the dried flower for bubble hash.

 

[oaktree]

This is my experience. Doing fresh frozen with little indoor plants is extremely disappointing yield wise. I can get a lot more from straight pressing the dried flower or running the dried flower for bubble hash.

Couldn’t you also do fresh frozen bubble hash? I honestly don’t need a huge yield anyway.

 

[Cactus Squatter]

Couldn’t you also do fresh frozen bubble hash? I honestly don’t need a huge yield anyway.

That’s what I’m talking about having lower yields. Fresh frozen bubble hash or fresh frozen dry ice hash has a much lower return for me than allowing it to dry first and then running it for hash.
When you’re used to seeing a certain amount of hash for all of your work growing and processing, and then you do fresh frozen and get like 1/2-1/3 less it’s kinda disheartening.

Honestly the only real benefits I personally see to fresh frozen/live rosin processing, at least at home, is the lower processing time on the plant and the rosin color. I don’t notice a huge difference in terpens, and the color is usually only slightly darker when using fresh dried flower.

 

[dogzter]

I dry then tumble the kieff and then press that I don't press flower any more either seems kind of a waste.

 

[CocoNut 420]

Imo after putting water near it you've instantly made an inferior product, some terps are water soluble, after smoke dry sift versus bubble hash it's not difficult to tell but it's also back up by science, dogster has a good method and what I'd expect to be a great product, dry sift is the best quality material you can use and it's less work to boot.

 

[oaktree]

Imo after putting water near it you've instantly made an inferior product, some terps are water soluble, after smoke dry sift versus bubble hash it's not difficult to tell but it's also back up by science, dogster has a good method and what I'd expect to be a great product, dry sift is the best quality material you can use and it's less work to boot.

Interesting. But don’t you also lose a decent amount of Terps during the drying process?

 

[oaktree]

I dry then tumble the kieff and then press that I don't press flower any more either seems kind of a waste.

@dogzter do you dry the flower and then cure it before tumbling? Or does it just need to be dried?

 

[dogzter]

@dogzter do you dry the flower and then cure it before tumbling? Or does it just need to be dried?

Just dry for blonder brignter terps cured for darker smoother terps.........depends on the plant.

 

[dogzter]

Low pressure and lower temps for better rosin is the rule that works for me.
I use a dabpress 12 ton on 4" x 7" plates at 180f. until the flow stops.
You can press hotter and harder but quality starts to drop.

 

[Cactus Squatter]

I’ve found that the best tasting method has been to fresh freeze, and then dry ice shake it.
That’s the method I prefer to use with clean indoor plants that have had filtered air, no bugs and no mold issues.
Outdoor plants always get ice water run though, our dust storms here kick up some gnarly amounts of sand and down clay dust that gets all over inside the flowers. I tried some of them dry ice method as well as dry sifted and it was just dirt tasting.

 

[Cactus Squatter]

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Low pressure and lower temps for better rosin is the rule that works for me.
I use a dabpress 12 ton on 4" x 7" plates at 180f. until the flow stops.
You can press hotter and harder but quality starts to drop.

Beautiful!
We’ve got the same setup it sounds like.
Low press temps is definitely where it’s at. I run 175-180° depending on how whatever I’m working with is behaving.