legal question

[freshray]

hey im freshray,my wife is such a stickler for her feelings on letting me grow,I'm a 42 year old cancer survivor in cali,my question and my wifes biggest thing is our 2 children,"what if they take our children away,I only want to grow 6 or 8 plants(i'm legal to grow 12)but keep it small for a first time grower..well i still cant talk her into it,Im legal,I want my wife to get legal,even if she dont smoke that much,fuckin hippocrit,any input would be greatly appreciated...thanks

 

[GimmeShelter]

legal question

If you are legal then no worries I would imagine. If it will make her feel better then make it stealthy or rent another place for growing and make sure you have your reccomendation posted. I'm sure others will chime in to help you.

 

[gaiusmarius]

your wife is wise to think about cps, i read a lot of cases where people lose their kids even though there was only a joint or 2 or even a positive pee sample. even if you are legal to smoke, your kids are not and that means you have to have a separate smoking room with ventilation/window and maybe even a air cleaner. your kids should never come any where near the smell of cannabis, let alone see it. child protective services in some states are incredibly brutal and intolerant. oft times they act as if they have a quota to fill when it comes to taking kids from their parents. the guy who made those never get busted again films had his kids removed for teaching his kids that governments are not to be trusted and don't always want whats best for the individual. you can find tons of reading on cps in America and the incredible abuse they get away with. they seem to be a law onto them selves, they can take your child without a judge order or anything on the spot. you can read of mothers that bring a child to the hospital after falling down at a school hockey game or some such and the child being taken away after the hospital calls cps due to the break not being clearly accidental or some thing equally absurd. the worst thing is from my reading on this matter, once they take a child it takes months and months even years to get them back, even if the whole thing was a mistake. i've read of cases where they decide that the child is now used to the new place and should stay there no matter if it was taken under false pretenses or not.

so your wife is right, you need to set every thing up in a full proof manner, where you can potentially show that your kids would never get near the smoke. specially if living in an area with those kind of cps.

i'm not sure how much protection the med rec does in terms of your kids. ask a lawyer is my advise in the end. should have been my first idea lol. just don't call cps to ask lol.

peace

 

[SGMeds]

The odd, twisted, screwed up thing is that they may earnestly believe they are doing a good thing... sad state of affairs...


I can't give out any more rep today, but thank you for the post GM! And the thread fr!

 

[there is no c]

Only the state, meaning the State of California, can take your kids away, because the federal government doesn't have any child protection laws. Because you are legally growing under state law, they wont take your kids away just because of your grow. They will do it for any activity that is deemed to "endanger" children, IE if you leave a bag of weed out they might consider it the same thing as leaving a Flintstone's Chewable vitamin bottle full of Oxycontin with a lose cap in their crib. So, Lock it all up; treat it like you would treat a gun with kids in the house. Also, inform your wife that she putting your custody of your children at risk more by smoking illegally than would by growing legally, because she committed a crime. Also, simply having weed in the house will have the same danger of being considered to "endanger" you children as growing it will; it all depends on the precautions you take.

This is not legal advice, this is just what i would do. I am not your lawyer and this is not an offer of legal services. Please, contact a lawyer registered with the State Bar Association for any legal need.

 

[there is no c]

your wife is wise to think about cps, i read a lot of cases where people lose their kids even though there was only a joint or 2 or even a positive pee sample. even if you are legal to smoke, your kids are not and that means you have to have a separate smoking room with ventilation/window and maybe even a air cleaner. your kids should never come any where near the smell of cannabis, let alone see it. child protective services in some states are incredibly brutal and intolerant. oft times they act as if they have a quota to fill when it comes to taking kids from their parents. the guy who made those never get busted again films had his kids removed for teaching his kids that governments are not to be trusted and don't always want whats best for the individual. you can find tons of reading on cps in America and the incredible abuse they get away with. they seem to be a law onto them selves, they can take your child without a judge order or anything on the spot. you can read of mothers that bring a child to the hospital after falling down at a school hockey game or some such and the child being taken away after the hospital calls cps due to the break not being clearly accidental or some thing equally absurd. the worst thing is from my reading on this matter, once they take a child it takes months and months even years to get them back, even if the whole thing was a mistake. i've read of cases where they decide that the child is now used to the new place and should stay there no matter if it was taken under false pretenses or not.

so your wife is right, you need to set every thing up in a full proof manner, where you can potentially show that your kids would never get near the smoke. specially if living in an area with those kind of cps.

i'm not sure how much protection the med rec does in terms of your kids. ask a lawyer is my advise in the end. should have been my first idea lol. just don't call cps to ask lol.

peace

The smoking rooms is a bit much, but i would be good to document that you have taken efforts to keep them away from the drug. As for the CPS stories, I have had numerous instances of professional contact with these agencies in two states and have read a number of cases and articles on this issue. I assure you, those stories you hear are the exception, not the rule, and important details are often omitted in the press. In fact, I knew one girl who had a visit from child protective services and they found a good amount of weed. She got probation and only lost her kid because her dumb as shit hippy ass breastfed while she was high, and the kids tested positive. she deserved to have them taken away at that point. She was specifically told that if she had not breast feed, she would not have lost he kids.

 

[IndigoChild]

The smoking rooms is a bit much, but i would be good to document that you have taken efforts to keep them away from the drug. As for the CPS stories, I have had numerous instances of professional contact with these agencies in two states and have read a number of cases and articles on this issue. I assure you, those stories you hear are the exception, not the rule, and important details are often omitted in the press. In fact, I knew one girl who had a visit from child protective services and they found a good amount of weed. She got probation and only lost her kid because her dumb as shit hippy ass breastfed while she was high, and the kids tested positive. she deserved to have them taken away at that point. She was specifically told that if she had not breast feed, she would not have lost he kids.

What if he just finds a quiet place to smoke, and when he wants to smoke some bud, he just takes his car, tells the kids hes out shopping, or going to church, or somehting, and goes in the woods somewhere to get wasted???

 

[!!!]

What if he just finds a quiet place to smoke, and when he wants to smoke some bud, he just takes his car, tells the kids hes out shopping, or going to church, or somehting, and goes in the woods somewhere to get wasted???

Who's actually gonna do that? Many of us here smoke all day everyday. That's like going out to the jungle just for a beer.

I say get a vaporizer, and make sure the grow op is locked - like stated above, the same way you would handle a gun w/ kids in the house.

 

[Cheerful]

Who's actually gonna do that? Many of us here smoke all day everyday. That's like going out to the jungle just for a beer.

I say get a vaporizer, and make sure the grow op is locked - like stated above, the same way you would handle a gun w/ kids in the house.

 

[vta]

This isn't from Cali but it shows the mentality.

Author: Meaghan Daniels

POT CLOUDS CUSTODY BATTLES

Medical Marijuana Can Lead to Problems in Custody Cases

Medical marijuana is a hot topic in the news. People are always hearing about whether it should be legalized in more states or if the legalization should be revoked. There is a side effect from the use of medical marijuana that people are not aware of. Medical marijuana use is viewed negatively in courtrooms during custody battles.

Nicholas Pouch of southwest Washington runs an organic farm and glassblowing studio. In 2007, Pouch's former partner tipped off a drug task force who raided his property, according to The Oregonian.

The criminal charges were dropped, but his former partner still cited the incident in an effort to win custody over their two boys. Pouch has only been able to see his children under supervised visits twice a month at a neutral house in Olympia.

Pouch uses medical marijuana to treat pain from Carpal Tunnel Syndrome aggravated by glassblowing, and a shoulder that frequently pops out of its socket.

Pouch is in complete accordance with the law. According to several states' laws, including Washington's, complying patients "shall not be penalized in any manner, or denied any right or privilege." If this were held to be true in Washington, Pouch's former partner would not have been able to cite his medical marijuana use in a custody battle.

An appeals court in Colorado last month ruled that medical marijuana use is not necessarily a reason to restrict a parent's visitation. Clearly that is not the case in Washington.

If there is no evidence of abusing their legal right to use medical marijuana, then they should not lose custody or visitation rights of their children. Since when does abiding by the law make someone an unfit parent?

The Marijuana Policy Project notes that in Michigan and Maine, two of the 14 states with medical marijuana laws, patients won't lose custody or visitation rights unless the patient's actions endanger the child or are contrary to the child's best interests.

Every case is different. People cite psychological disorders in an effort to win custody, saying that the opposing party is unstable. It is rare to see someone use the medicine people are taking to remedy those disorders in custody cases.

People who use medical marijuana, like Pouch, are using it to control and manage their pain. If it is legal in their state, why are they out of line? Is it harder for medical marijuana patients to measure the intake of pot than for someone with bipolar disorder to measure their medicine intake?

Seattle lawyer Sharon Blackford has said that urine tests can be an effective way of measuring how much marijuana a patient is using to help determine whether they are abusing it or if they are under too much of an influence to provide for their children.

Ultimately, each case is different. In this specific Washington case, the court should have looked at all of the facts instead of condoning a woman for tipping off a drug task force to medical marijuana. If the criminal charges were dropped, it should have had no place in the custody case. Pouch should not be punished for abiding by the law.

Medical marijuana should not be a deciding factor in custody cases. In fact, it should not even be cited as a negative effect in custody cases unless there is evidence of abuse. If no such evidence exists, then the point is moot.