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Mississippi's marijuana: Legal pot farm at Ole Miss where cannabis is grown for research through contract with federal government.

OXFORD — It's the smell - pungent and slightly citrusy- that first greets visitors to Mahmoud ElSohly's office on the University of Mississippi campus.

Next are pictures lining the hallways of the bright green plants ElSohly has researched for 35 years as chief cultivator in the nation's only legal marijuana farm.

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The University of Mississippi Marijuana Project provides marijuana by the bale to licensed researchers throughout the nation. They study the drug through a federal contract with the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

Marijuana is grown in a field, nurtured in an artificially lit "grow room," analyzed in labs and stored in drums in two bank-style vaults.

"It's a complicated plant," ElSohly said.

It's complicated not only in its chemical composition but also because of the political and cultural baggage it carries.

Around the nation, policy makers are struggling with legalizing the drug for people who need its medical benefits while lobbyists push for even greater legalization.

"It's a very controversial issue and a very emotional issue," he said. "This is an illegal drug, a controlled substance. If this was milk thistle or any of these other herbal drugs, it would be no problem making this available or an extract available."

Although he says he never has smoked it, ElSohly is a marijuana fan. He is an informed believer in the medical properties of THC, the chemical in the plant that produces a psychoactive "high" but also is being used to give relief to people with chronic ailments such as cancer or Parkinson's disease.

Marijuana, he says, is a true wonder weed that, broken down into its chemical components, can be used for both constipation and diarrhea, he said. ElSohly and his colleagues have spent years studying and isolating the plant's medical effects.

The federal contract pays the university about $480,000 during growing years - less on off years - to provide the cannabis to researchers. Ole Miss has been involved in marijuana research since 1968 and the NIDA contract dates to the mid-1970s.

Federal demand for the plant waxes and wanes, ElSohly said.

But Ole Miss' contract to grow marijuana rankles some who see it as an unfair monopoly.

"It's really handicapped research," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance Network, which favors legalizing marijuana for medical use and eliminating criminal penalties for possession.

One reason some question the approach at Ole Miss is because the project has a fundamental objection to smoking the plant, in part because of the nature of the university's longstanding federal contract. But ElSohly, a research pharmacist, thinks it is just a bad way to take medicine.

Through years of research, ElSohly and other scientists have discovered more than 500 chemical compounds in marijuana, many of which he said can take on unpredictable characteristics when heated up several hundred degrees.

"Smoking produces thousands of chemicals that get into the lungs," he said. "If the drug is to be used in any way, smoking is not the right way."

ElSohly is working on non-smoking methods to ingest the drug, ways that separate the medical benefits from the psychoactive high. So far, the suppository method he has promoted has proven unpopular, but he is working on a patch placed on a patient's gum line that delivers a mild, time-released dose of THC that he says gives the patient medical benefits without getting high.

Nadelmann said such research has value, but he said scientific studies indicate that the marijuana high is part of the reason it is effective. For that and other reasons, Nadelmann and other supporters of medical marijuana are pushing for legal consumption of the whole plant, something he said has broad-based support.

"If we were able to hold a ballot initiative in all 50 states, I think we would win in all but a handful," he said.

Fourteen states allow some form of legal medical marijuana and advocates are pushing hard in others.

Iowa state Sen. Joe Bolkcom, a Democrat, said he thinks voters are ahead of policymakers when it comes to legalizing medical pot. Bolkcom sponsored a medical marijuana bill in the Iowa House that he acknowledges will not pass this year. But he said it will pass as soon as lawmakers figure out "the Iowa approach" to the problem.

"There still is some concern about making sure there is sufficient control in the system so that people who are chronically ill and in pain have access to this medicine, and it simply isn't an avenue for legalization for recreational use," he said.

Maryland Delegate Dan Morhaim, a Democrat, and Republican state Sen. David Brinkley have introduced bills in the General Assembly to allow medical marijuana use by people with serious illnesses. They say they have broad support.

Morhaim, a physician, said the bill will tightly regulate the dispensing of the drug through state-certified facilities instead of a grow-your-own approach adopted in other states.

Morhaim said ElSohly's work on nonsmokable medicinal marijuana is worthwhile, but it is not the only answer and is not available now.

"This is about compassionate care," he said. "There is no reason to be so marijuana-phobic as we have been in this country."
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Moonshine*

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"ElSohly is working on non-smoking methods to ingest the drug, ways that separate the medical benefits from the psychoactive high. So far, the suppository method he has promoted has proven unpopular, but he is working on a patch placed on a patient's gum line that delivers a mild, time-released dose of THC that he says gives the patient medical benefits without getting high"."






Leave it to a good old boy from Mississippi to make a cannabis dip patch like a skoal bandit.........funny as hell...







moonshine
 
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10jed

Strange... the suppository method isn't that popular. Whoda thunk!

Jed
 
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milehimedi

"by the bale", are you kidding me? They call this research?

It's a shame places like Full Spectrum Labs in Denver get shut down while this asshole is not only allowed to do this, but he is FUNDED by our government.

I hope that is not his finished product in the pic, looks more like trim after it got hashed.
 

ghostly

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I bet he's got a few bails stashed away, suppository style. No way Im sticking mexi-looking schwagg up my ass, uhnt uh, not for nuthin.

Is there really no legal loop hole or precedent to free up access? it seems in the USA, you cant get away with that, unless its nuclear tech., not even military technology is monopolized. Monopolies stifle completion and progress.
Smart move really if you want to suppress something, the government can say "were doing research" but really they locked up a poor plant and some kook with his head up his arse, in a basement in the deep south, i don't know how they grow anything; there is no light where the sun don't shine.
 

xfargox

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I bet he's got a few bails stashed away, suppository style. No way Im sticking mexi-looking schwagg up my ass, uhnt uh, not for nuthin.

Is there really no legal loop hole or precedent to free up access? it seems in the USA, you cant get away with that, unless its nuclear tech., not even military technology is monopolized. Monopolies stifle completion and progress.
Smart move really if you want to suppress something, the government can say "were doing research" but really they locked up a poor plant and some kook with his head up his arse, in a basement in the deep south, i don't know how they grow anything; there is no light where the sun don't shine.

Make something illegal and you control the research sector.
 

qdavid

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Ole Miss sends their pot to North Carolina to be rolled into cigarettes for "research". But the buds were clogging up the rolling machines so they use only leaf material. That's why he is pictured with that garbage and thats why all the gov't "research" is bullshit.

I'm not at all surprised he thinks shoving it up his ass is the best way. I'll bet he loved that part in "Deliverance" and figures all southerners are like that and so wanted fit in there in Mississippi. Somebody probably should mention vaping to that dork. But I'm pretty sure it'd be just wasted effort.
 
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10jed

qdavid, that is only partially true. the old miss lab does produce joints from mj that is of a higher thc but they roll them in-house with a rolling machine by hand for the reasons you stated. Yes they do manipulate the product through their own breeding and processing and yes most of their research is bullshit. In their big multimillion dollar lab they cant seem to separate males or trim buds to preferred (by us) standards. Even though they run their crops from clones...

Some of the testing they approve uses material of up to 8.5% THC which, is also about average for street products that are confiscated. That is to say the average for the actual plant matter that is confiscated and sent to them for testing. They claim an average of over 10% thc in confiscated samples but don't separate the confiscated oils and hashs from the tests.

The fact that they aren't testing the same gear that the med patients are finding to be the best, is enough for me to say they have no clue, or are manipulating their results based on product submitted. If you believe the "g13 clone" story, then they certainly know how to produce quality marijuana and are purposefully supplying marijuana that is far higher in leaf matter and carcinogens and presumably manipulating, through selection, product that is designed to provide poor results in testing.

Gotta love how they hold all the cards huh?

Jed
 

ghostly

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i grew a g13 cross, it was junk.
the average thc from confiscated weed... mmm i guess if you used the bails of mexi dirt it would bring the average down. i promise, the average on local smoke, not imported beaster or mexi, is well above that. ive been serving primo for a minute (all 15-20+%thc and my peeps wont take anything less.
 

mr noodles

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is it me or the guy is disappointed because suppository are not popular ...

well maybe its not everybody who like to stuff thing in their butt ?

he never smoke it ???? so he have theorical knowledge but no clue on is effects in real world ?

what a douche
 
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10jed

i grew a g13 cross, it was junk.
the average thc from confiscated weed... mmm i guess if you used the bails of mexi dirt it would bring the average down. i promise, the average on local smoke, not imported beaster or mexi, is well above that. ive been serving primo for a minute (all 15-20+%thc and my peeps wont take anything less.

Curious if you are actually testing that or are basing that on what the breeders info says? That is a fairly hot topic right now. It was obvious to me after my first bagseed grow that "potent" mj is easily achievable with even half-assed proper growing techniques. Without testing it means nothing to me though as I don't know at what thc level makes something the 1-hit wonderbud for me. Deciphering between strength of effect and type of effect is tough for most people I think... it is for me anyways.

You are right though... they are taking all confiscated samples and adding/dividing to come up with an average. Certainly a lot of that is schwank or beasters. Like I said they are also putting hash products into the average, but even hash is less than 25% thc in most cases from what I have read. The average they report is over 10 because of hash products. There was an article specific to this on mpp.org I found the other day but i can't find it now.

Regardless I find it odd that they even bother rolling it... why not just deliver buds for testing or to the people that the government supplies for med use? the test reports I have seen show 3 varieties coming from them: Jamaican, Mexican, and "special hybrid". So seemingly they are producing 2 sativa's and a hybrid but no Indica.

IDK... interesting information surfacing about all of this.

Jed
 

ghostly

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jed- if i had the resources of ole miss and the million dollar spending mishap that they call research, i could test my product, but no, its not tested. I serve, SNOWCAP, BLUEDREAM,PURP KUSH, HINDU SKUNK, CHEMDAWG, PEZ AND GREENCRACK. these strains are elite and renowned for thier 'effect'.
good info though, i wouldnt have known they included hash, again though, gross ass soap hash on the black market is bad, my water extract is most definatley over 25%. Ive been at this game for almost 20yrs now, and your point about stregth vs. effect is a good one.
ive seen documentaries on the dudes getting the tins of joints, dude was smoking his face off! if it was my bud, he wouldnt be able to finish a whole joint in one session without bustin a lung. even better point...if this douche doesnt think smoking is a good delivery method, why snd joints? why not bud for vaping? or oil, which they have produced no literature about which leads one to believe they havent even tried. I say make REZ the head breeder, me the guinea pig, bring in Rick Simpson, bubble man and Soma for the hash n oil dept., and we might make progress. can i get an AMEN?
 
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swicker

I say make REZ the head breeder, me the guinea pig, bring in Rick Simpson, bubble man and Soma for the hash n oil dept., and we might make progress. can i get an AMEN?


haha that'd be the day
 
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10jed

Amen Brother!

I'm sure your smoke is top notch my firend, and I am not doubting your skills. I have no way to guage what I smoke personally and for all I know the high cbd/low THC strains are what really screw my world up? IDK, nor do most of us. Certainly if we had the u miss lab we would be doing some testing of a different sort though, right! "Eeear man...*cough* you better test this one *cough*. It makes my feet numb *cough*"

Ah well... someday soon maybe!

Jed
 

hazy

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How do you get in the testing where the guy sends you a bale to test. Probably some other gov funded labs.
 
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