Large scale production of hashish...

[Ralph Fulber]

Since I met disproportionately many Canadian 'contrabandistas' over the years, active in the international cannabis trade, I am initiating my inquiries in this forum. For those with field experience, curious as to the yield on a ton to kilo basis for hashish in a variety of countries. Initially we will encourage traditional dry sieve and press techniques, using three passes with industrial meat grinders.
Open to alternative methods. Product is the trim from mechanically trimmed high altitude kush strains grown in the Sierras in Sinaloa. Multiple tons of excellent dry cured materials on hand.

 

[Cvh]

I'm not sure what your question is. Are you asking about different methods on how to process large amounts of trim? If not, what's your question then?

 

[CosmicGiggle]

.......... Multiple tons of excellent dry cured materials on hand.

Is this something you have available for sale Ralph?

The reason I ask is because this is your 1st post and we don't do spam here, thanks!

Will be following along!

 

[Gry]

Sounds like opportunity to me...

 

[moose eater]

I'm not sure what your question is. Are you asking about different methods on how to process large amounts of trim? If not, what's your question then?

If I read his post correctly, he's inquiring about the percentage of return/yield from processing or sieving a specific aggregate weight of cannabis trim, and how much hashish can be expected to come from it.

Frankly, without knowing the quality of the trim (i.e., just sugar trim? Quality of grow and fertilizers, specific strain and typical resin or trichome production, etc.) it's an unanswerable question, other than to give a broad range of potential percentage of hash to be made from the trim.

I use ONLY sugar trim, no schwag, no fan leaves, and depending on the condition of my number 100 screen tumbler wheel, and the strain in question, as well as the condition or success/quality of THAT specific go-'round, I have ranged form a 5% return to a 13% return, or, 5 grams of hash per 100 grams of sugar trim, on up to 13 grams of hash from 100 grams of sugar trim. But I also only tumble for a total of 40-45 minutes..

 

[CosmicGiggle]

..... but wouldn't a significant amount be lost to the "three passes with industrial meat grinders"?

 

[moose eater]

..... but wouldn't a significant amount be lost to the "three passes with industrial meat grinders"?

Can't say. I tumble with a custom built #100 screened 'wheel' inside an epoxy-painted wooden box, then hand-press in a custom-built/machined 3-piece 'mold', using a -heavy duty- press with an 8-ton or a 12-ton pressure, depending on which hydraulic jack is in my work area at the time.

In theory, using the meat grinders to push the glands out in a coagulated, semi-compressed manner wouldn't necessarily 'lose' any of the material, providing the meat grinders were cleaned properly after the fact. And with the weight the OP is referencing, they might lose a couple to four ounces, maybe 6 oz. max, per grinder, if they -didn't- clean the things to n'th degree. Which I'm guessing, considering the volume they're processing, they wouldn't care too awful much about??

Hell, if I were in their area, and they weren't among the bad-asses of questionable karmic worth that sometimes reside and participate in black market business in those places, I might offer to clean up their gear for free, just for the number of ounces (each) that I'd speculate the things might render, post use.

Assuming he's talking about a U.S. ton, and not a metric ton, my calculations say that in the mid-range, using only premium sugar trim, 2,000 lbs. of trim ought to yield, (at a middle-of-the-road average of about 9 grams of hash per 100grams of trim), 'about' 179 lbs. of hash. Maybe more. Depends on if he likes his hash to look like the old Moroccan or Lebanese blondes and browns that mine resembles, or if they want to spin it longer in the sieve, and get the more common, somewhat less tasty 'green hash'. Still an effective product, but lacking in the nostalgic appearance, taste, and high that many of us older hash heads relish in our distant memories, from back when the US still received products from those places in far greater volume than we do today..

(By the way, to arrive at my numbers, I multiplied 2,000 lbs. <or 1 US ton>, by 4.5, or the approximate number of 100 gram increments in that ton <450 grams, versus the more accurate 453.9 grams>, multiplied by the average return with my method of auto-tumbling <middle of the road being 9 grams of hash per 100 grams of trim>, and divided by 454, the slightly-rounded number of grams in a lb. And, voila, not bad for a couple days' work feeding some grinders with the sieved glands.

I had a grower from Santa Cruz, on the ferries up here, going on 40 years ago, tell me he had a garage full of trim in black plastic trash bags, back in the days when folks had scant clue what to do with it. My eyes lit up. I figured a full 2-car garage, with some folks back then literally paying someone to dispose of such 'garbage', would provide enough hash to smoke, market, and 'gift away' for a good long while.

The good old days, when most folks thought that making hash involved some magical, mystical process, and that raw trim with a few micro-buds was worth all of $20/oz. at best.

By the way, I initially read his post to state that they were sieving, and using 3 meat grinders. Not 3 passes, but I may have gotten that wrong. Not sure why more than one pass through a grinder would be necessary, once the material was sieved, but I'm not familiar with his set-up, and probably don't need to be. ;^>)

 

[clearheaded]

ya meat grinder is very bad idea.. crush all trichs and only seive part plant part trichome.. zero need for grinding trim.esp if already came from mechanical trimer.. id say 3-5% of quality maybe near ten if greeny hash. depends on trim tho if super sugary maybe get 10% of quality..

 

[f-e]

The rep from a machine company would have an optimistic idea.

If you already have the product, get your sieve out and see. Do a Kg, and if you get 10g, there is your ratio. Not a guess, but an actual figure.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

ya meat grinder is very bad idea.. crush all trichs and only seive part plant part trichome.. zero need for grinding trim.esp if already came from mechanical trimer.. id say 3-5% of quality maybe near ten if greeny hash. depends on trim tho if super sugary maybe get 10% of quality..

I fell on a YouTube video that showed this guy run his kief through a meat grinder about 3 times. It sure looked hand pressed. Wish I could find it again.

 

[clearheaded]

well compressing keif to hash is one thing, but exactly my point, cant run it through bags after trichs are all smashe dup..