Landraces!

[BagseedSamurai]

So im wanting to start some breeding projects. AMong them, im looking to work with landraces and thier potencies.

So im curious if the Guru's of Cannabis here at IC would help me name a few, and where I might acquire seeds? I need a landrace strain from the following:

Asia (Trying to avoid Thai however.)
India
Mexico
Africa
America
Australia
Afghanistan
jamaica
puerto rico
Europe

What im looking for is:
Potency.
Strength of smell.
High calyx to leaf.

Basically, a landrace strain with some potential, but room for improvement. I have some plans for these. So any help would be appreciated.

 

[RoNdO]

I've been interested in taskenti from canna biogen I intend to grow this

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=25927&highlight=tashkenti
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=29552&highlight=tashkenti

Caribe by canna biogen also has caught my eye due to the fact i want to grow some Jamaican sadly no one has any pictures or cool stories about this strain on here or at least they aren't sharin em. I also intend to grow this and strawberry diesel when rez gets the beans on seedbay if i'm quick enough that is.

edit: Tashkenti has breeding potential a fat stretchy indica X with something smaller and hella tasty = a winning combo IMO

 

[TheItalianSeeds]

absolutely an african landraces like Malawi gold...

A great cross?

malawi x something hawaiian.

There are so many good strain...
try to cross malawi that is a pure landrace with a sativa hybrid like
kali mist
cinderella 99
apollo 11
Destroyer
trainwreck
ecc...

more yield, more compact plant, less days to mature, more resin!!!!

 

[glock23]

Here's some pure Indian sativa from seeds I personally brought back from India last year. According to the discussions I've had with naga_sadu, there's a good chance the buds the seeds came from were from Andhra Pradesh. Some plants took almost a year from germination to harvest! Biggest female (the wilting one) died on me, but the second tallest was 11 feet and bent over at harvest. Very airy, loose buds. I've never had such a positive, up high from any weed...no confusion or paranoia!


Here's a shot from early flowering. Check out the extremely thin leaves!


Even after 4 months of flowering, I had long branches that never really filled out; there were just clusters of bud along them.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

What im looking for is:
Potency.
Strength of smell.
High calyx to leaf.

Welcome to the club, that's basically what all breeders are looking for. I believe just about any serious breeder could help you out with valuable information (on which landrace strains that have potential), since landrace strains are the building blocks they work with. Talk with DUBI (he's around here at IC). He's not a breeder, but he works with ACE seed bank, that specializes in preserving landrace strains.

 

[SaintVicious]

For the Mexican landraces you should try to find some REAL Oaxacan, either Highland or Lowland Oaxacan landrace.. Ive only personally had pure Highland Oaxacan, but Ive seen and heard about a lot of lowland and it seems that the lowland is thicker, more calyxes, with a decent high, while the highland is thinner, skinnier, more leafy but has a absolutly superb high.

 

[motaco]

actually SAINT I found the exact opposite.

the highland I'm told (and seen from pics) clusters up and makes better buds as highlands tend to do, and finishes a lil faster. the lowland grows HUGE buds but when you actually weigh them its nothing. my main cola on lowland was a lil smaller than a 2ltr drink bottle. when weighed that nug was about 7-8 g.

SUPER FLUFFY. could grow it in a glass of warm water and it wouldn't mold. stone is trainwreckish. very powerful drunken weed. not much motivation but good buzzy work weed. good for mowing the grass and shit like that.









that being said at one point there were AT LEAST 8 different identifiable oaxacas. so its totally possible there are more than one strain floating around as lowland or coastal oaxaca. and they could both be the right name.

 

[SaintVicious]

Hmm, well the description is the same up until the trainwreck high.. powerful drunken weed? What I had, which is "Highland Oaxacan landrace" was real soft stuff, very potent but it did not destroy you at all, very motivating, very up and clear, giggly and happy.. it made you smile and feel light with energy.. great stuff really. Youve already seen these pictures Motaco over in the Oaxacan thread

 

[motaco]

yep. thats what I heard.

I got some '68 oaxaca which I don't know much about and haven't tried yet. only know it was picked up from the best batch a bruha (sp? mexican witch doctor) had in oaxaca in 68.

the highland is supposed to yield more, finish faster, and be alot more pleasant and trippy.

the lowland turned out to be just what I was told. mexican powerhouse weed. reminds you a lil of goods bags of schwag u got when you were a kid but 5x more potent. its a very stony strain. makes you lazy, can't do easy math in your head, etc. but its also buzzy enough that its good for work. you can still be blasted so your having a good time and be doing manual labor.

on alot of weed if I get high and go cut the grass the stone will just disappear, or I won't notice it. on lowland I'll still feel it for hours. until you crash which will be a burnout. I like it for clearing brush, mowing grass etc. but its alot less trippy and euphoric. floaty. and

alot more buzzy drunken stone.

 

[KingRalph]

vicious, motaco, thanks a ton for the high n lowland oaxacan info. nice to know the differences.

VERY cool glock with that indian! i think indian sativas are overlooked often and have a lot to offer, at least i think so since they've always peaked my curiousity. maybe just because it's impossible to come by, but probably more because it's one of few unadulterated strains left in the area, definitely as far as sativas go for the region. hope you're enjoyin it!

 

[glock23]

Thanks Ralph. I've smoked a lot of Mexican (of varying grades) and I find the Indian to be similar in many ways. Cannabis is used religiously in India...it's all over the place and there's a lot of culture surrounding its use. There are government shops where you can have a weed shake and then trip out

Indian hash is all the rage in Europe right now. Apparently the Italian mafia are buying up large portions of India's hashish production for export.

I've grown some Mexican bagseed in the past, too. I wouldn't mind the Oaxacans these guys are talking about. I had a pure Peruvian sativa from Cuzco and it was a beauty! Unfortunately, the friend I gave it to had to scrap his grow...how I miss her...she was only 5 weeks into flowering...the NL X Shiva I was doing with it was about 2/3 done in contrast...hehe

 

[SaintVicious]

(Lowland Oaxacan Landrace X Highland Oaxacan Landrace) X Indian Landrace

 

[motaco]

its definitely possible for modern haze strains to be made. just by combining one crazy sativa after the next. maybe one day.

 

[glock23]

Food for thought. I agree that it would make a good cross. I'm a little paranoid about security right now, but I'll see if I can get a European friend of mine to get some beans out to you. I shared the strain with someone on OG. He tried to do them indoors...hehe...these babies need a lot of room and they don't yield all that much. What they do have, though, is vigor and strength...and a clear, happy high that we sativa lovers all love. it isn't too much either (like kali mist was for me...jesus) so it doesn't make you completely lose yourself in mindspace...

maybe next time i have my hands on some kali mist, i'll smoke less of it i was totally unable to communicate with anyone.

oaxaca x andhra pradesh sounds good to me it would be interesting to do both crosses, though...an AP male with an Oax female and an Oax male with an AP male...just to see how much sex and alleles on X and Y chromosomes affects genetics in landrace sativa strains...

It would be cool to make our own haze wouldn't it?

i just smoked some of the indian and i feel great!

we gotta call it oaxaca x andhra pradesh though...india's a big place and it has everything from extreme sativas to extreme indicas...weed is part of life there. cheaper than marlboros, I kid you not. andhra pradesh is a state, so I don't know exactly where it is.

 

[SaintVicious]

andhra pradesh is a state

So is "Oaxaca" so its perfect!

 

[myst]

The last time I checked Reeferman had these landraces available:
Burmese
Highland Afghani (Kandahar I believe)
Lebanese
Nigerian
Turkish

I’ve also seen available from Reeferman:
Blackseed – a Mexican sativa IBL
Garberville – an IBL via Garberville, CA
Chinese indica IBL
Apple Pie – a hybrid of Acapulco Gold x Highland Nepalese (you can find distinct phenos of both strains)
Vietnamese Black is another one..................

Good Luck with your quest................

 

[motaco]

i grew his burmese pure and a few f2's in the viet black direction.

 

[BagseedSamurai]

What id like to know is where these people find such exquisite smoke, or the seeds/clones to smoke such..exquisite..eh, whatever.

Lots of good info here, im impressed! From all that about the Oaxoca (sp?), that looks like one id go for, especially the thinner looking one; it fits my view on a certain strain im breeding.

The reason I want to go landrace is because I want a pure start. I want to be able to say, when i put my seeds up for sale or give-away or test, that they are mine and mother natures. And thats it.

y'dig?

 

[Guest]

Carribean genes are great

Any one want any?

 

[Limeygreen]

I for one would love some, as would many others I believe.