Landrace sativas suited to USDA 9b (subtropical) with rain and high RH into October

[SlimSativa]

Hello everyone. I'm new here and hoping for some landrace strain recommendations (and sources) for outdoor gorilla grows at 30°N. The weather can be hot, rainy, stormy and humid through Oct and and sometimes into Nov here. I'm willing to sacrifice yields, flower time, smell, taste etc. in exchange for a long flowering plant that finishes after things dry out and possesses the effects I like. The above attributes are also nice, but not to the degree I want to be feeding plants to the compost pile at the end of the season.

The most important criteria for me is effect and I prefer medicine that provides a clean, energetic, motivated, happy and creative high with no ceiling and no hangover in addition to resistance to disease, fungus, pests etc.

Some additional variables:

• I'll most likely grow in some form of pot/container, but would like to eventually sow directly into the ground, which is naturally sandy with poor nutrients here (PH around 5.5). I will amend, but this is what I'm dealing with.
• Finding full sun is challenging given the gorilla nature of the grow and the fact it's hard to find areas hidden enough that also aren't under some kind of tree canopy (this will also increase the likelihood of moisture related problems). The plants won't be in shade, but the light will often be filtered.
• I need seeds I can buy in the US.
• I like to know the provenance of the genetics and want to deal with people who have a genuine love for this plant (and their fellow man). I know it may sound weird, but I think we impart a certain energy into the seeds and I don't want any darkness or negativity.
• I have seen pics of friends standing under 15'+ plants grown here and while I don't mind training plants, if they were naturally smaller, that would be cool with me. Politically, the voters just failed to pass legalization where I live...so the need to hide plants will most likely persist for a long time.
• I have an afinity for American sativas and have some seeds from Mexico, Central and South America, but I am willing to experiment with anything. When I find something special, I plan to preserve it.

That's all I can think of. I appreciate any wisdom anyone shares.

 

[Creeperpark]

Thanks for the post friend. Sandy with poor nutrients (pH around 5.5) is a perfect start. Just having that will make all the difference in the world. Start working on adding leaf matter or any organic matter you can find in the soil now so your plot will be ready in the spring. I used two five-gallon buckets and harvested rotten leaf matter from under the leaf canopy under trees, and put it in the plots during Fall and Winter. About 20 five-gallon buckets per plot in the Winter and the garden will be ready in the Spring. In the Spring after the last frost, you can put out live plants that you sprouted indoors during the Winter. Go to our seed Vendors to find all the Sativa seeds you want. Good luck friend. Keep us posted.

 

[goingrey]

Not that many landrace seed banks in America from what I've seen, especially not those selling strains from the Americas. Snow High maybe if he is feeling well enough and not MIA. I see some "Purple Mexican" from Kropduster on Strainly.

Dunno about the microclimate but there are interesting ganja places at 30N like the Himalayas. Some Nepalese or Indian cultivars might be worth looking into.

 

[SlimSativa]

Thanks for the info! Can't believe I'm just now finding this forum. There is a wealth of information here.

@Creeperpark , It's good to know the soil gives me a good starting point and the idea of building a mound with leaf mold, mulch/organic material is the simplest and most practical approach. I was thinking of hanging plants or building a structure, but both of those options increase the likelihood of someone discovering my grow. I also have access to farm manure/compost and biochar! I hope to post something next grow season.

@goingrey , finding landrace seeds has proven to be a challenge! I'm not sure exacly how to describe my microclimate. It's considered subtropical, but I'm in a coastal region that didn't have a single freeze last year dispite being considered 9b. It's hot, rainy and humid. Today's weather is 27°C (80°F) | 19°C (66°F), 51% RH with several rain days this week. I'm thinking a strain that finishes in Dec/Jan might even work to avoid moisture problems and I have some very long flowering strains to try (Kerala Chellakutti ±150 days).

I have some Himalayan, Nepalese, Indian and SE Asian genetics in my collection and was recently reading some history with regard to American cannabis. I was reminded that the first plants were probably brought to the Americas from those very regions by early explorers/traders/colonizers in the 16th/17th century.

 

[Freezerweed]

Finding full sun is challenging given the gorilla nature of the grow and the fact it's hard to find areas hidden enough that also aren't under some kind of tree canopy

I grew in the mountains of Colorado at about 7400 elevation for decades in remote cliff areas. I would transport 2 foot plants to each site in a large backpack in May. They would not grow much but I still managed to harvest each late September. They would even survive short snow storms because they were against the sunny South side of a cliff. It was a good heat sink. I used water crystals and manure with native soil and hauled water from a stream once a week.

 

[RingtailCanyon]

From personal experience in that latitude and environment… don’t use Dutch hybrids. Go with heirloom sativas like punto rojo. Go with ganja cultivars like haze, not hash cultivars like Nepalese.

 

[Genghis Kush.]

From personal experience in that latitude and environment… don’t use Dutch hybrids. Go with heirloom sativas like punto rojo. Go with ganja cultivars like haze, not hash cultivars like Nepalese.

actually Nepalese charas plants are very tall and sativa like, I think they would be fine in his environment .
But afghan/paki hash plants maybe not so good

 

[RingtailCanyon]

actually Nepalese charas plants are very tall and sativa like, I think they would be fine in his environment .
But afghan/paki hash plants maybe not so good

I agree. They would do well. But they are hash cultivars and therefore not been selected the same way as ganja varieties.

 

[RingtailCanyon]

From Angus @RSC:
“For potent pristine landraces (i.e., not heirlooms), look at ganja landraces from tropical regions such as Southeast Asia, Tropical India, and Tropical Africa. Unlike hash landraces, ganja landraces do have a long history of undergoing conscious individual plant selection, because aficionados and farmers in regions with a long history with ganja (i.e., sinsemilla / semi-sensi) often know to keep seeds from good batches of bud to cultivate next season. Tropical landraces – aka, Sativas – are the most potent types of cannabis landraces.”
…”Actual Hindu Kush landraces have historically only undergone bulk selection, a much looser and mostly unconscious form of selective pressure by farmers, so their populations typically segregate into Type 1, 2, and 3 chemotypes.”

 

[RequiredUsername]

Hello everyone. I'm new here and hoping for some landrace strain recommendations (and sources) for outdoor gorilla grows at 30°N. The weather can be hot, rainy, stormy and humid through Oct and and sometimes into Nov here. I'm willing to sacrifice yields, flower time, smell, taste etc. in exchange for a long flowering plant that finishes after things dry out and possesses the effects I like. The above attributes are also nice, but not to the degree I want to be feeding plants to the compost pile at the end of the season.

The most important criteria for me is effect and I prefer medicine that provides a clean, energetic, motivated, happy and creative high with no ceiling and no hangover in addition to resistance to disease, fungus, pests etc.

Some additional variables:

• I'll most likely grow in some form of pot/container, but would like to eventually sow directly into the ground, which is naturally sandy with poor nutrients here (PH around 5.5). I will amend, but this is what I'm dealing with.
• Finding full sun is challenging given the gorilla nature of the grow and the fact it's hard to find areas hidden enough that also aren't under some kind of tree canopy (this will also increase the likelihood of moisture related problems). The plants won't be in shade, but the light will often be filtered.
• I need seeds I can buy in the US.
• I like to know the provenance of the genetics and want to deal with people who have a genuine love for this plant (and their fellow man). I know it may sound weird, but I think we impart a certain energy into the seeds and I don't want any darkness or negativity.
• I have seen pics of friends standing under 15'+ plants grown here and while I don't mind training plants, if they were naturally smaller, that would be cool with me. Politically, the voters just failed to pass legalization where I live...so the need to hide plants will most likely persist for a long time.
• I have an afinity for American sativas and have some seeds from Mexico, Central and South America, but I am willing to experiment with anything. When I find something special, I plan to preserve it.

That's all I can think of. I appreciate any wisdom anyone shares.

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