Landrace Indica and Sativa for 56°lat

[MeanGreenOne]

Hi, I'm going to start a outdoor breeding program and I ask you for advice as to which landraces to look for, and where to get hold of the seeds.
What are your suggestions?

 

[MeanGreenOne]

It's for a outdoor breeding program.

Does HFH a leb 27a count as a landrace? If so, then the sativa is found.

I would like to get hold of Taskjenti Indica seeds, are they possible to buy somewhere?

 

[Mustafunk]

For that latitude I would recommend relatively fast landraces with good resistance to mold and low temperatures. So I guess you should avoid equatorial strains that may never finish there. Although with some years of selection and some breeding, you can really cut the flowering times and end with a plant that suits your needs.

Nepal, North India, Hindu Kush, North Mexican an so on could be a nice start. Pakistan Chitral is as a sturdy hashplant quite resistent to mold (as opposed to other Pakistan and Afghan strains) and not overpowering for breeding, there were plenty Nepal and North Indian strains in Real Seed Co as well.

You can also try to find some of the classic Dannish or Swiss heirloom strains to work with (or any other northern european strains). There are some afghan, lebanese, nepalese, thais (Thaifun Horizon) and other strains that were acclimatissed to those conditions for decades that may be a good start as well. The Leb27 strain you said could be a good example indeed. There are a few european seed vendors that offer those kind of strains.

The Taskenti strain is a hybrid of Uzbekistan x Northern Lights so it's a bit prone to mold and slightly longer flowering than other hashplants (11 weeks) because of the rare Uzbekistan landrace.

 

[Thule]

Tanska's Nepal would be a good candidate. It's a Nepalese sativa grown in Denmark for atleast 30 years. I had some at 64' north and they pulled it throuh although could have used some more time. I think the search function will help you find the right way.

Leb27 too is worth looking into.

 

[idiit]

sativa: my png dom clones from nanan bouclou (papua new guinea/haitian) are in already.

indica: bat pheno from mandala's satori.

highly recommend.

 

[rik78]

check "Hybrids from Hell"

 

[Rinse]

Indica landraces are generally not early that far north but its not impossible,
some pheno hunting with Afghan and northern Pakistan strains would be a good start.

In general I harvest those strains in late oct @ 52...Usually with some mold issues,
same with PCK, Hindu Kush, Maple leaf etc...

There are Uzbek and Kazakhstan landraces which are possibly earlier but they seem to be rare.

Sativa's, ones that come to mind are already mentioned, Tanska's Nepal, Leb27 are both good bets, Nepal can be very early if started in April.

The Indian and Nepalese strains generally will not finish, although once again there are early pheno's to be found...

 

[Sibbeli]

I have early pink kush beans, those might hold a real Indy dom genotype. If bred with another very Indy dom genotype, i might have something possible to breed with, but it aint a real landrace..

What REAL PURE Indica landraces are possible to get hold of from any seed company?
Taskenti is out, pck too..

Btw, i remembered my old nick and pass, so here i am..

 

[Sibbeli]

I would love to get hold of some pure Indica landraces.. Need your help here bro's

 

[Rinse]

I would love to get hold of some pure Indica landraces.. Need your help here bro's

Real seeds co. has Lebanese and Sinai landraces.
Grindhouse has "Ancient Afghan", though thats been in California a while.

 

[Sibbeli]

Yeah, I have found a seedbank that has RSC 'a Lebanese so I'll order it as soon as possible

 

[rangergord]

I am at 56N in Canada. I crossed celestial temple sativa a Ecuadorian landrace to lowryder autoflowering to create an F5 hybrid that is stable and can be seeded directly outdoors and reproduce seed reliably. At this lattitude I think autoflowering is a required trait for successful outdoor breeding. That is without the assistance of a greenhouse or indoor environment. My initial cross could not have been successful outdoors.

 

[Rinse]

I am at 56N in Canada. I crossed celestial temple sativa a Ecuadorian landrace to lowryder autoflowering to create an F5 hybrid that is stable and can be seeded directly outdoors and reproduce seed reliably. At this lattitude I think autoflowering is a required trait for successful outdoor breeding. That is without the assistance of a greenhouse or indoor environment. My initial cross could not have been successful outdoors.

Sounds nice Ive heard great things about CTS,
so you did the initial f1 cross indoor, then inbred to f5 outdoor?
How many generations did it take to stabilize the auto trait?

 

[rangergord]

F1 to F4 were done indoors to speed things up and F5 was the last outdoor breeding (seed to seed outdoors). The autoflowering was 100% at F4. I call it AutoCTS. It is very uniform in its phenotypical expression.

 

[marijuanamat]

check out the real seed company as they only stock landrace/farmed vars from countries of origin.