Just got my 1st of 4 orders with a freebie kosher tangie seed. I immediately put it in a 1" rockwool cube. That was last night. So hopefully tomorrow it will be up above the surface. I plan on doing a full log on this strain. The kosher is currently my favorite strain out of about 35-40 mothers I have. It performed well for my outdoors. So seeing that they crossed it with the first ever U.S. cannabis cup winner, I got super excited. If things go as planned, I will have shitloads of kosher tangie outside in '14.