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they were in the weak sidelighting of my freinds flouros in his veg closet as my a/c went out and the a/cman had to order parts and took over a week, wasnt any space to even get em under direct flouros just sidelighting so they got all wimp. soon as i got them back under 1000 watts it was like they got steroids..hope they dont hermie cause they were under such weak lights??