jamaican origin of cannabis.

[Oldganjafarmer]

Cannabis existed in the world since ancient times, marijuana is not rooted in Jamaica as many might think, and it was not until the mid-nineteenth century came to this Caribbean island when East Indians (collies) they were brought by the British to work on plantations, mainly sugar cane, since jamaica became one of the largest producers of sugarcane in the world. Later, slavery was abolished. Eventually their knowledge of the plant and methods to consume, how to smoke it, they were spreading across the Jamaican black working class.
according to many studies, Jamaican cannabis sativa is a hybridization of varieties of India, Africa and later, when there were attempts to eradicate crops of the island by helicopter using poison, brought from countries such as Colombia and Mexico some of its varieties.
a classic Jamaican cannabis was the "jamaican lamb's bread" culture originally stood in the Blue Mountains.
later, after the 70s, when the eradication efforts of the Jamaican marihauna devastated much of the varieties of cannabis on the island, the Colombian and Mexican marijuana, much influenced by a percentage of Jamaican genetics.
Jamaican cannabis had different imports from different places in time.
now today, all the genetic heritage to become contaminated with Dutch hybrids like skunk, blueberry ...
on the island today most of the varieties grown are derived as skunk.
maybe at the top of the Blue Mountains, a small town or a small Rastafarian community, still keeps the legendary lamb's bread.
Even today I can to spread its use with both therapeutic, religious, recreational ...
I leave a picture of an old "Jamaica Blue Mountain" I found in the source paurolhom.be
greetings all.

 

[misterD]

Little may know, but they got some of the craziest hashish! (imho) The indian depart could explain how they know how to do!

 

[Limeygreen]

Al the Jamaican's I met said the best herb is in St Ann's (could be a pride thing that they say this.) Regardless they all say the same ting, deep in the mountains there are still the old strains but most don't grow them for economic reasons, they can run multiple crops in the year of the indica hybrids and get faster money. To find the old strains their comments are you need to find the old rastas or old growers in the jungle/mountains. I haven't personally gone so I don't know first hand myself rather just what they tell me.

 

[Oldganjafarmer]

MisterD, it may be that the tradition of Jamaican charas comes from the ancient Indian workers but gave the floor to other uses such as tea.
Limeygreen, st. Ann has produced very good Jamaican marijuana.
I got in the 80s prove lamb's bread from Westmoreland, I still remember the extremely elated and creative effect.
I would travel to the Blue Mountains and some research, some will, but I doubt they are like those of the 70s ...
rasta some old school farmer or some Rastafarian community for religious purposes, perhaps preserved from generation to generation.
Bud Green Sr, container that reminds me something I smoked, of bad appearance, but deceives, very powerful, as hybrids first Jamaican collie or kali. It quite surprised me your picture, I smoked in the 80 imported varieties of Colombia and Mexico!
greetings all!

 

[shishkaboy]

Got some seeds from a recent trip. Will share later. Just babies right now.

Any info on a golden colored bud out there?

 

[misterD]

My jamaican dream than i actually grow, kinda look gold ... She grow along some oaxacan which lean on purple! Her colour is really contrasting if i compare .. I'll post a picture of main cola when i'll cut in 2 weeks or so!

 

[Roms]

Yah the line JLB probably comes from the Sâdhu...
Rastafarianism is a mystical encounter between India and Africa in absolute...

Boom Shiva, the chalice a fe burn brozha

 

[Oldganjafarmer]

shishkaboy, I have no information of the golden buddha, personally remember that smoked Lambsbread and according to my memories was brown with many leaves, stems and seeds.
Colombian and Mexican if they had a golden color.
hi roms! the Lambsbread is a spiritual line, some Rastafarians use it for religious purposes.
good contribution! Cheers

 

[shishkaboy]

Sorry I didnt not mean to derail your thread.

I am pretty sure the seeds I got are not a landrace, but are deffo being grown in Jamaica right now.

Thank you for the tip tho.

 

[wumbatti]

Last year when I was in Jamaica many rastafarians said the best herb comes from Westmorelad
I smoked the best tasting herb I have ever smoked and even got few seeds back home.
But after police visit they're gone..
Someday I'll go back to that beautiful island to get my seeds

 

[Homebrewer]

I've been to Jamaica a few times and on my last trip, I decided to bring my own stuff. I smoked with a local, a well-to-do athlete actually who was bragging about how good their herb was on the island. He bugged-out after the third pack of my one-hitter.

Now I'm not saying my herb is anything special, but I am saying that these days their herb is not.

To each their own though. I found some Jamaican beans in a bag I bought down there and ran them a few years back. I still have that Jamaican plant in my garden and she's definitely some of the most skunky, rotten meat smelling herb in existence. She has to be. It's obnoxious how stinky that girl is.

 

[Irotas]

Cannabiogen had/has a Jamaican blue mountian, but from what I have seen it's out of stock. Not sure how pure it is.

 

[Oldganjafarmer]

hello all
I talked to kaiki of CBG.
As I understand about the Jamaica Blue Mountain, is a former Jamaican sativa of 1985, he told me, brought one of the founders of Cannabiogen the same jamaica, a rasta who bought a good branch full of seeds.
There are several theories about its origin, from my point of view, I think it may be a pure Lambsbread or crossed with a Mexican or Colombian imported the moment.
others say it may have genes of blueberry.
analyzing the timeline, and having been analyzed by other breeders, they all say that it meets the requirements of the old Lambsbread.
Blue Mountain is the exact area from which the Lambsbread jamaica, who certifies you to be pure Lambsbread? because I do not know, we must also mention that in the '80s began to pollute the Dutch genetics.
I also read that curiously from a collection of Jamaican seeds of different times this was the stronger and pure structure, we could be facing a pure Lambsbread, acclimated to Spain over the years.
I have to say that I have always felt love for Jamaican cannabis.
I just sincerely share my humble opinion and can not think.
it's only an old lady of 85 Jamaican.
greetings to all ...

 

[cazastrains]

Hi, I think Jamaican Indian cannabis comes from different regions, seeds northern Himachal Pradesh, Bengal, Kerala ... all that cannabis of these different areas may have hybridized in Jamaica since their seeds carried collies regions.
later when they took Africans from West Africa as slaves, they could have introduced seeds from countries like Congo, Angola, Nigeria, Togo, Benin ... everything is a mystery.
All I know is that the original Jamaican cannabis is a mixture of Africa and India and later predominance of Mexican and Colombian ... this is just my opinion.
I agree with you Oldganjafarmer, I think the Jamaica Blue Mountain can be an original Lambsbread, but also think something hybridized with some imported the moment.
greetings

 

[Bush Dr]

The various Navies, British in particular all used to have large cannabis plantations to ensure a supply of hemp rope, a 17century sailing ship could easily need 12 miles of different thickness rope in the rigging, it takes a massive amount of hemp to produce enough for one ship, so think what a Navy would want as back up

Most of the pre-Columbian era hemp came from African plants due to the length of the fibres, hence sativa strains

The gold colour could come from any of the 100+ seed strains I took over, along with lots of other people doing the same

Westmoreland is the area OK, at the west end of the Island there was hardly a road to Negril until 1968 plus the prevailing winds are from the west so most of the time the wind is from the sea and is pollen free

 

[Obsidian]

easy enough to solve this mystery, submit so called jamaican strain leaf for DNA analysis to Sam the Skunkman and the linage can be traced easily.

 

[HemperorsKnight]

Does anyone know anything other then what's on Google about Jamaican Kings Bread I got some seeds and a few germinating in hopes to get one going as much as I have read is that it may be a plant King Solomon enjoyed and may have been found on Solomon's grave. The name I'm sure means "kings as in Christ the King of Kings" and "Bread as in the sacrement" if anyone knows anymore lore or even straight facts I would be blessed to read

 

[rolandomota]

Jamaica has medical laws now so more pollution in the genetics.

 

[window]

I've been to Jamaica a few times and on my last trip, I decided to bring my own stuff. I smoked with a local, a well-to-do athlete actually who was bragging about how good their herb was on the island. He bugged-out after the third pack of my one-hitter.

Now I'm not saying my herb is anything special, but I am saying that these days their herb is not.

To each their own though. I found some Jamaican beans in a bag I bought down there and ran them a few years back. I still have that Jamaican plant in my garden and she's definitely some of the most skunky, rotten meat smelling herb in existence. She has to be. It's obnoxious how stinky that girl is.

A friend of mine, who is a very heavy smoker went to Jamaica for a month and travelled around, scoring weed every other day. He said none of it compared to what we grow back home. He said the main problem was the herb is not dry enough because of the humidity over there.
He visited a couple of so called ' plantation's' and it was mainly indica/wld Dom varieties that flowered early and stayed short.
I asked him, if he found any lambs bread, to bring me back seeds. He kept asking all the rasta's he came across but it just isn't grown anymore.

 

[ULMW]

JA herbs still available but not to anyone asking for it. It sought of sets off the I am Tourist Rip me off Alarms or just plane confuses most of todays smokers.
Few farmers continued "Sativa" or 9month plants as the 6month and 4month hybrids appeared along with indica. In the 80s still plenty of Sativa but from 90s onwards hybrids and short season 3month plants are the main product commercially.
In the 90s when I briefly lived in JA for a couple years I found Sativa was much harder to get. Still there were about 33 farmers growing the "long season plants" or"Sativas"
The buds were amazing and super sweet. Since then I have to really say the old school farming of sativas is in the hills and in the hands of a very few.
Kingston , Westmoreland , St. Anns are still good places to trace farmers of "Sativas "or" long season herb".

In JA it is common practice that the first draw of herbs the person brings you maybe rubbish , so by politely refusing or showing disinterest and looking to move on , ask for a "better grade" and you should get some better herbs than the geneal commercial street dealers herb.

Also prices are better for pounds than likkle personal smokes.
If wanting variety of tastes look out for "Bag Spliff/Skliff" sold by peanut vendours at shows or at many local stores in town and country and residentual areas. You get about 3 to 6 grams of bud enough for one or two spliff and for a really affordable price.
I found it nice to sample varieties that way.