Its a Pheno,... Type Question

[junit]

Ok Lets take TH Seeds HOG for Example.... The Coveted Pheno from that line is known as the Hogsbreath..... Can a particular Pheno such as Hogs breath come in the form of a Male Plant?.... if so How would you find this?... I would think it would be much more than just smelling the males.

If thats not possible or just too much work... What would a breeder do..?... Just Take a Hog female and hermie her and cross that with a Female Cherry Pheno AK-47?... (I use these examples simply because they really some of the only strain specific phenos i know of)

Thanks Guys... just trying to learn.

 

[trevsharper]

I'm not too sure about the Hogs breath pheno, but lets take the example of purple.

If you want a plant to exhibit purple traits then you would choose purple parents. For the male you would choose one that has the most purple in its flowers.

I'm just assuming that in choosing the male plant, it best represents the quality and traits of a particular pheno that you would want.

Sorry, couldn't help you much.

 

[Dr. D]

im sure in this case that to find a male with this pheno then they would go by a male plant that is has the same characteristics as the female...i.e growth structure, leaf shape, smell, resin production, flower time etc etc

 

[Guest]

ok... well... the idea is that if you're going to be making these crosses... you're gonna want to know how the plant grow geta feel for it...
basically...
you'll have tyo do a lot of asking aroufd online to find the pheno ... but if you can pick out a hogs breath pheno out of a fem and you know its growth characteristics well enough... you pick out a male plant that looks very similar to the female hogs breath... and thats it....that's the keeper male... (if you get enough seedstock growing)

 

[junit]

I havent Really worked with Males... So im not sure on what traits that they exhibit.....just the basic ones I suppose... but in this case I was thinking hogs breath.... Very Potent... and High yielding....probrably the two most important traits to a grower... (one or the other)...How Would One Determine that?

 

[Guest]

finding a male plant that mirrors the female traits as listed above
smell, leaf shape, growth pattern, flower time

 

[junit]

So what your saying is.... A male plant that most expresses the females traits should include but not always the same yield and potency?

 

[Dr. D]

something like that yeh...but experience willl play its part in this (knowing wot to look for)...maybe one of the breeders here can ellaborate on this...peace

 

[junit]

Thanks Guys...

 

[Guest]

yes there can be male phenotypes mirroring the females but not always, generally speaking the more frequent the chosen phenotype occurs in a group the easier it will be to capture the desired traits when inbreeding it (ie hogsbreath x hogsbreath) or outbreeding it (ie hogsbreath x cherry ak)

when 2 distinct strains are crossed together there will be dominant traits, co-dominant and recessive traits, so some traits will be come from one side, some from the other and some will combine to make new traits, the easiest way to figure out what you will end up is to do the cross and grow the plants, it's hard to predict what the outcome will be without actual breeding experience with the strains

things can get tricky when there are multiple parents in the makeup of the strain ~ when unstabilized plants with multiple parents (aka polyhybrids) are used in crosses then the outcome can be less than predictable, I always recommend crossing a polyhybrid to a stabilized strain (ibl, heirloom)..ie hogsbreath x skunk1, the stabilized strain will add predictability to the outcome ..then if a hogsbreath pheno is desired a hogsbreath pheno male can be chosen from the hogsbreath x skunk1 cross and used to polinate a hogsbreath pheno female, this is called a backcross and will increase the incidence of hogsbreath phenos in resulting seeds

 

[Dr. D]

thanks for that lucifer that explains it better..peace

 

[Guvnor]

great post lucifer- cleared a few things up for us

All the best

Guv'nor

 

[Guest]

Sorry but what would you get when you cross a skunk and a hog.
A honk or a skog. does it depend on who the mother is?