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Is this genetic or viroid?

Jasper Palmer

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2 Cannatonic plants (from Resin seeds)
Do these misshapen/stunted leaves look like viroid, or weird genetics, or ??
Thanks!

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TanzanianMagic

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"Is this genetic or viroid?"

Possibility 1:

The very thin points to the leaves and the change from yellow to green make it look most like this picture of nutrient burn.

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Source: (REDDIT) How to treat nutrient burn? : r/GrowingMarijuana

Possibility 2:

Considering the damage is to the tops of the plants unlike in the picture above, it could also be mites.
 

Jasper Palmer

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"Is this genetic or viroid?"

Possibility 1:

The very thin points to the leaves and the change from yellow to green make it look most like this picture of nutrient burn.

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Source: (REDDIT) How to treat nutrient burn? : r/GrowingMarijuana

Possibility 2:

Considering the damage is to the tops of the plants unlike in the picture above, it could also be mites.
Thanks!
I don't think it's burn because it's just on the top leaves
No signs of mites, either
 

Creeperpark

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When leaves turn in circles it could mean you don't have enough calcium. Also, when leaf tips start bronzing it is also an indication you may not have enough calcium. What kind of starting water are you using? Tap water?
 

Ca++

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Dark leaf in the first pic, tells a story of bugs and high feed. Another pic shows leaves that had their tips pruned off by bugs, while still expanding. They are possibly not bugs that stick around though. The feed issue could be passing, but them light tips may also be low K, as the Ca is high. Ca can block just about everything, and soil generally has enough Ca to get us through. Especially using tap, which needs the water report looking at, but likely gives more Ca than plants need.

If it was a general over feed from hot soil, it's passing. The overfed example pic offered, shows clawing from salt buildup, that isn't present in these plants.
Edit: Actually it is isn't it. Milder, but definite.

This might all be sorting itself out, so be cautious with any changes you make. Look at pH and such, and get some bug strips to see if you have a lurker in the vicinity.
 
Nutritional. But we all know pot growers don't believe in nutrients. Only bugs mold viroids lights genetics environment watering, planetary alignment and hustling. Everything but what is important.


Too much K blocking B & Zn. I know this because I've only seen this one time, across hundreds of plants, after feeding too much K and getting my tissue sampled afterwards. Everyone on classic Icmag, back when the soil gods like Clackamas Coot were still roaming the land, told me to throw my soil away because it was a soil demon of some sort. I didn't, because I'm not a dumbass.

I'd recommend a trace mineral product but there are zero on the market designed for cannabis (too much manganese). Most Cannabis is trace mineral deficient, except for Manganese. And they always blame the bugs mold and bad karma that their poor plant husbandry attracts.
 

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