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Is this caterpillar damage?

Green Squall

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I searched the plants pretty thoroughly and didn't spot any, but can't really think of what else it could be, except maybe leaf hoppers. i'll pick up some spinosad tomorrow.
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FletchF.Fletch

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Beetle damage, and not Octopus' Garden. Get some Bacillus var. Kurstaki

Caterpillar damage shows as bites out of leaves, or Whole leaves missing. They feed at night so you don't usually see them, but the droppings are a dead giveaway.
 

Green Squall

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Beetle damage, and not Octopus' Garden. Get some Bacillus var. Kurstaki

Caterpillar damage shows as bites out of leaves, or Whole leaves missing. They feed at night so you don't usually see them, but the droppings are a dead giveaway.

Feed at night? Makes sense because I do a daily check and have never seen a single beetle on my plants.
 

Green Squall

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The bugs are really bad this year, went to pick up some spinosad at Home Depot was totally out of everything spinosad. Going to the local grow shop tomorrow.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/06/22...al-pest-damage

completely defoliating whole trees in the northeast!

I used to get a kick out of reading the comment section on WBUR lol.

I ordered some earlier and it will be here in a few days. Luckily only one plant is affected and besides some leaf damage on a few branches, its thriving overall.
 

Creeperpark

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Just mix a little cold pressed neem oil, and spray the leaves on top and bottom well. Its not grasshoppers because grasshoppers mostly chew on the stems, when they do damage. 😎
 

Green Squall

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Just mix a little cold pressed neem oil, and spray the leaves on top and bottom well. Its not grasshoppers because grasshoppers mostly chew on the stems, when they do damage. 😎

I'm a little wary of neem oil and refuse to use it. Many think its the cause of cannabis hypermesis syndrome.
 

Creeperpark

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Only use it when its an emergency. Its not going to be on your flowers friend, you use it while the plant is in veg, "one time only" and let the flowers protect them selfs later. Those leaves are very important now as solar collectors, but will be gone by the time your plant flowers. They don't know what causes cannabis hypermesis syndrome. No one has proven that neem is the cause! 😎

Dr. Ian Mitchell, clinical associate professor of emergency medicine at the University of British Columbia, explains that CHS symptoms are distinct from those of neem oil poisoning.

Cannabis medicine consultant Dr. Tom Folan, founder and CEO of SolaceMD Group, points out another differentiator. “A 2013 study shows CHS in patients taking synthetic cannabinoids. And those synthetic cannabinoids are found nowhere near neem oil,” Dr. Folan says. “If neem oil is causing CHS, then why would synthetic cannabinoids also precipitate CHS?” he asks

Dr. Folan says that beyond being used as a cannabis pesticide, neem oil is actually quite prevalent in household products. “Neem oil is also used in a range of different things, such as toothpaste, soaps and skincare. Far from it being toxic, it’s actually quite good for you,” he says.

You can't believe everything you here friend. Save your plant! 😎
 

TanzanianMagic

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I searched the plants pretty thoroughly and didn't spot any, but can't really think of what else it could be, except maybe leaf hoppers. i'll pick up some spinosad tomorrow.
Search no further - that's grasshopper damage.

https://hightimes.com/grow/help-grasshoppers-are-eating-my-pot-plants/

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I almost thought leafhoppers, however they do less damage because they're smaller insects. The bigger the holes, the bigger the insect that created the damage.

Leafhoppers hop on top of leaves and start eating. They have a delta-like shape with a wide head. The damage they do is scratchier and usually not all the way through the leaf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafhopper
 

Green Squall

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Search no further - that's grasshopper damage.

https://hightimes.com/grow/help-grasshoppers-are-eating-my-pot-plants/

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I almost thought leafhoppers, however they do less damage because they're smaller insects. The bigger the holes, the bigger the insect that created the damage.

Leafhoppers hop on top of leaves and start eating. They have a delta-like shape with a wide head. The damage they do is scratchier and usually not all the way through the leaf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafhopper

Funny you should mention that because I noticed a shitload of small grasshoppers all over the yard this weekend. I've never had issues with them, so didn't think twice. Good news though is that the damage hasn't progressed and the Captain Jacks seems to be doing its job. I also bought some BT, so I'm thinking of alternating weekly.

Even though this wasn't caused by caterpillars, they are still my main concern. I'm not sure what kind of cats they are (Northeast USA), but they are tiny and very hard to spot, so plucking them off is almost impossible.
 

Tom Hill

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Search no further - that's grasshopper damage.

https://hightimes.com/grow/help-gras...my-pot-plants/

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I almost thought leafhoppers, however they do less damage because they're smaller insects. The bigger the holes, the bigger the insect that created the damage.

Leafhoppers hop on top of leaves and start eating. They have a delta-like shape with a wide head. The damage they do is scratchier and usually not all the way through the leaf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafhopper

Lol. Leafhopper ruin crops the lil bastards i will take beatle any day. Leafhoppers give a weird virus activity to cannabis any fuck growth up so bad you dont even want to know. Many folk confuse it with russet mites - they are that bad. And that is not* grasshopper damage that is beatle damage grasshoppers will chew much larger holes than that and they are not so uniform either they vary more in size.
 

OG_NoMan

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My vote is for Beetle damage also. Last year's out door Mac 1 got attacked pretty bad by beatles and it looked just like the pic. Starcrash had the same damage last year from beatles also. I didn't do anything about it as it was only 1 plant that was affected but I would pull the beatles off and kill them if/when I saw them. They seemed to go away on there own after a few weeks. Good luck :biggrin:
 
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