Is there any reason why to not make tincture right after harvest?

[DaGreenMachine]

The mrs loves the tincture, and we're out, but I have a bunch of fresh harvest. Any reason to wait to dry/cure? Or maybe I could water cure it first?

TIA...

 

[mazzakush]

I much prefer fresh stuff for tincture.... as with any plant....

although, I haven't done a cured bud tinc..... I really like fresh leaves tincture, very calming

 

[DaGreenMachine]

After some searching the only thing I found was it would possibly taste much more of chloraphyl, so I'm going to whip up a small batch and see how it works.

 

[RebelGrow]

do that my man because i'm about to harvest and would like some feedback on fresh vs. dry.

 

[CMoon]

just my experience guys but id only run it wet and fresh for tinctures if despirate, even 4 days on a speed dry with the material will giv a better product

reg cmoon

 

[RebelGrow]

thanks cmoon.

 

[grumio]

My understanding was that most of the thc in the plant is in the form of thca (tetrahydrocannabinolic acid, which is not psychoactive), which is converted to thc by drying, curing, & finally smoking or vaping or cooking (decarboxylation).

Also, the boiling point of alcohol (~170f) is lower than the temp needed for decarboxylation (~205f, IIRC).

But heck, try a small batch & post your results! Good luck!

 

[hardhat22]

Bump

 

[mazzakush]

why would thca lose a carbon group (decarboxlyation) when drying? not saying bud doesn't get way way way more potent as you properly dry / cure it, but for some reason I don't feel that its that conversion happening.

Fresh tincture makes a great anti-inflamatory...

 

[Jones]

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[adron]

Ask Ed:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2794.html
...
Although decarboxylation takes place rapidly at 106? C, it proceeds at a more gradual pace by placing the cannabis in a room with low relative humidity and room temperature. As the temperature rises, the rate of decarboxylation increases.
...
When the marijuana is crispy and brittle you can be assured that the carboxyl group has been removed from the cannabinoids and they are ready for extraction or removal from the plant material.
...

So then there is no need to put properly dried gear into the oven/microwave for a couple minutes prior to curing it in alcohol?

Also this should go in the Brewing subforum...we need some more action in there!! I've got a green dragon thread going in there right now.

 

[Papulz]

decarboxylation is something that people go back and forth about, some people believe it to be utterly necessary.. while others yet do not use it.

Either way, you should get an effect from your tincture.. the suite of effects may be slightly different from each version.

you can always make 2 tinctures and compare them.

 

[adron]

Yeah if you've got the greenery for it

I think my first time around, I will do the heat decarb step, just to be sure. My gear is pretty dry, but a little more activation couldn't hurt.

Perhaps next time I will skip it and compare.

 

[hbstoner]

ya dont do it right after.. dry it out and let the chlorophyl out otherwise it will release into the alcohol and give the tincture a shorter shelf life as well as make it not taste so great. ( i know from experience. )