Is there an organic B vitamin out there?

[secondascent]

a hydroshop owner once told me that there is no such thing as an organic b vitamin, there's natural but not organic. I forget his justification, but what he said made sense

can anyone confirm this or mention any b vitamin products that are alright to use in an organic grow?

btw, i brought up AN's organic-B...he said its not truly organic, just named that.

cheers

organic sour diesel:

 

[mr.niceguy]

superthrive?

 

[Guest]

superthrive is not organic minerals are not organic.

 

[Storm Crow]

Hey kid!

Hey kid!

Have you checked out your local health food store? If you can find organic "B" anywhere, that would be your best bet.- Granny

 

[Guest]

interesting read on wikapedia
Vitamin B comes from a number of natural sources, including potatoes, bananas, lentils, chili peppers, tempeh, liver, turkey, and tuna. Nutritional yeast (or brewer's yeast) is an especially good source of Vitamin B. The iconic Australian spread Vegemite bills itself as "one of the world's richest known sources of vitamin B". As might be expected, due to its high content of brewer's yeast, beer is a good source of B vitamins,[1] although this may not be true of filtered beers.[2] In fact, beer is sometimes referred to as "liquid bread".[3]

 

[Guest]

http://www.advancednutrients.com/landing_pages/organic-b_landing.html

 

[Guest]

Vitamins B-1 help boost the plants metabolism, it works great for transplanting, and as a booster from time to time.



Do plants need vitamins?
No. Humans need vitamins, but plants do not. Plants do need mineral nutrients such as nitrogen. Phosphorous, potassium, iron, boron and others.
The essential mineral elements are:

Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, sulfur, boron, chlorine, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, molybdenum, and nickel.

In addition to the essential mineral elements are the beneficial elements, elements which promote plant growth in many plant species but are not absolutely necessary for completion of the plant life cycle, or fail to meet Arnon and Stout's criteria on other grounds. Recognized beneficial elements are:

Silicon, sodium, cobalt, and selenium

Other elements that have been proposed as candidates for essential or beneficial elements include chromium, vanadium, and titanium, although strong evidence is lacking at this time.

Another group is the essential nonmineral elements, elements taken up as gas or water, which are:

Hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon

Out of all of the many natural elements, essential mineral elements, essential nonmineral elements, and beneficial elements are not randomly scattered, but instead cluster in several groups on the periodic chart.

 

[Suby]

The benefits of B1 vitamin is a common gardening myth, plants get what they need from a healthy soil.

By Robert Cox, Horticulture Agent, Colorado State University Cooperative Extension

Many consumers assume that products on the store shelf must have been tested to prove their claims. Certainly, fertilizers have to meet nutrient content requirements, and pesticides are rigorously tested for safety before EPA registration.

For some other garden products, however, no such testing is required before sale to the public.

A good example is vitamin B1 (thiamine), often sold to "prevent transplant shock" and "stimulate new root growth" when planting trees, shrubs, roses and other plants. A study in the 1930's provided the basis for such claims. Pea roots cut off from the plant were placed in a culture medium in the laboratory.

The researchers knew that thiamine was normally found in roots, so they put thiamine in the culture medium and found that root growth did occur. Vitamin B1 is manufactured in 0lant leaves and sent to the roots, but if roots are cut off and placed in a petri plate, vitamin B1 stimulates growth of the roots when it saturates the culture medium.

Planting trees in a soil environment, however, is vastly different from a laboratory culture. Most important, gardeners aren't in the habit of cutting off the root system when planting. Several studies using intact mums, apple trees, orange trees, pine, tomato, beans, pepper, corn, pear, watermelon and squash have failed to demonstrate that vitamin B1 treatments provide any type of growth response.

Some "root stimulator" products contain a rooting hormone and fertilizer along with vitamin B1. These materials may increase rooting and growth, not the vitamin B1.

The bottom line: While root stimulator products are not necessary for transplant success, if you do use one, make sure it contains a rooting hormone and fertilizer rather than just vitamin B1. The vitamin B1 is for marketing purposes rather than actual effect.

Using soil ammedments that are high in micros like kelp meal or liquid seaweed along with a good compost based ammendment like worm castings ensures you have the source and microorganisms to supply your plant with whatever it needs.

If you want to check out more gardening myths I'll PM you the link, it's in the OFC somewhere.

Peace
S