Is there a doctor in the house ? HELP!

[9Lives]

im knee deep in shit again.
Here are the pics...im going to get PH strips tomorrow...they are in 1/3 perlite 2/3 organic compost...i have only watered them with pure water. Ph about 6.9 ?

Looks like boron def...but as i understand it could be a number of things..

Any thoughts...

 

[JollyGreenGiant]

Have you ever fed them anything period? They might be hungry?

 

[Guest423]

they might need nitrogen, overwatering, too much sun....need more details.

 

[9Lives]

They are indoors...just took em outside for some pics..

I have not fed them anything but water...I added chicken manure and kelp pellets to the soil mix...as i said its 2/3 organic compost...it should have plenty of N. Yet they are slow releasing nutes. So maybe is should add N...untill they grow a better root system. Its all organic..

I dont think its over watering...i water with caution and the soil has plenty of perlite so drainage should be good.

However i will add nothing untill i get my PH strips...my opinion its some sort of lockout from wrong PH.

 

[MTF-Sandman]

Wow...I think that's the first time I've ever seen what I'd call a boron def...but that's definitely what it looks like to me. Try a foliar spray of 1/2 tsp boric acid per gallon of water.

Kinda odd that composts usually have plenty of boron though...what's the source of the compost?

 

[9Lives]

''totally organic composted blend of nutrient rich bio-solids and yard trimmings. This blend is composted thoroughly to produce a high quality humus material which is free of pathogens and weed seeds

contains stable organic matter, nutrients and a high level of biological activity. Improves the soils capacity to exchange nutrients increasing plant growth and health.'' (wow..thats scientific)

pHKCL 6.9-7.45

Wow thats a bit high...

yeah MTF-Sandman...first time for me too...excluding Stitches post.. It must be because of the PH..we'll know more when i get the strips. I have no idea where to find boric acid tho.

 

[MTF-Sandman]

Try the garden section of WM, HD or Lowes...it's commonly used as a roach killer. Might even be able to find it at a Walgreens/CVS type place as well...

 

[sproutco]

Wow...I think that's the first time I've ever seen what I'd call a boron def...but that's definitely what it looks like to me. Try a foliar spray of 1/2 tsp boric acid per gallon of water.

Kinda odd that composts usually have plenty of boron though...what's the source of the compost?

boron deficiency is usually death of the growing point and this is not. Newest leaves would be showing distortion and burn.

 

[sproutco]

Did you add any dolomite lime to the soil? Was the chicken manure composted? There is no telling what the metal content of chicken manure might be. I might redo the whole soil thing and repot. Add dol. lime if not before and no "hot" chicken poop or kelp. Then feed the plants a controled measured dose of fertilizer that you know precisely what is in it and not having to guess what the kelp/chicken poop is doing or will do to your plants. I might guess and say it is a lack of magnesium but it is hard to tell if the chlorosis starts at the bottom of the plant.

 

[Guest]

u transplanted into unaged/composted chicken shit etc. thats the problem bud.
sorry but these types of soil mixes need to be aged/airated/watered regularly for some months prior to plantin.
a few weeks at the bare bones minimum. every time u water plain water even its just goin to get worse.
replant to soiless mix such as promix with nothin added (cept perlite if ya want)
and then, as sproutco suggests, go on a liquid diet so u know what they are gettin.
be well

 

[Dr. D]

u transplanted into unaged/composted chicken shit etc. thats the problem bud.
sorry but these types of soil mixes need to be aged/airated/watered regularly for some months prior to plantin.
a few weeks at the bare bones minimum. every time u water plain water even its just goin to get worse.
replant to soiless mix such as promix with nothin added (cept perlite if ya want)
and then, as sproutco suggests, go on a liquid diet so u know what they are gettin.
be well

Sounds good to me!!
And another thing check your ph of your run off too. to give you an idea of where the ph is at in that mix.....peace

 

[Guest]

indeed and if usin HYDRATED lime, you need to re-lime post-compostin

be well

edit: to put a label on it, yer plants are burnt. hot compost will do that. no readily available nutrients so yer just bein burnt up AND maybe even deficient since theres nothin of value in the mix...yet.
kelp meal alone provides enough micros to get you thriough the grow

ps- N is not for rooting. P. is the element responsible for root production. N is secondary there

 

[9Lives]

here's the poop

here's the poop

It's actually pressed chicken poo and kelp granules...ready for use..And i used less than 1 liter for 35 liters..i should of specified. If somethings burning them..i think its the compost.

I will take your advice and replant. Do you think i can still use the mix i have right now...and mix it in like 1/4 or 1/5 ?..So it wouldnt be a total waste ?

Ill get some regular potting soil...and add some extra perlite to it..

Cheers...thanks for the help everyone

 

[sproutco]

Repot. Get regular potting soil. Add perlite if needed to make the soil fluffy. No chicken poop or kelp or questionable compost. Add powdered dolomite lime to the potting soil if it does not have any. Mix well. This will supply calcium and magnesium. Use probably no more than 84 grams or 1/4 cup of lime per 28 liters of soil (1 cubic foot). Your liquid fertilizer should contain nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, and molybdenum. Adjust your fertilizer water to 5.6 to 6.2 ph using an acid or base.

 

[9Lives]

Will do...im off to the gardening center right now..