is my speaker ok

[FrostedBakes]

no duck tape is touching any electrical commponents they are connected by electrical connectors..the speaker is H- 28"1/2 W- 10"3/4 L- 7"1/4 and i plan on using 3-4 2700k 23w cfl's then for flowering stage i plan to use 3-4 6500k 23w cfl's..for soil i plan to use ffof with ff nutes aswell.. i dont know my fans powers but soon the rest of the specs and building details will be here but untill then can homies please help and suggest shizzit to me. thanks, Frosted

 

[Weedman Herb]

Your speaker Sucks ... I can't hear but a slight Hum coming from it ... wait ... That's not an Audio speaker anymore ... I'd go with a Mixed spectrum of CFLs on Both Cycles ...

 

[FrostedBakes]

Your speaker Sucks ... I can't hear but a slight Hum coming from it ... wait ... That's not an Audio speaker anymore ... I'd go with a Mixed spectrum of CFLs on Both Cycles ...

then what do you suggest about the sound

 

[I2KanGrow]

then what do you suggest about the sound

...another set of speakers??? Those old ones smell funny, also!

 

[Joey56789]

Perhaps you just misspoke, but you want the 2700Ks for flower, and the 6500Ks for Veg. What is the black thing on that blue wire shelf? A carbon scrubber? You know you are going to need an intake and exhaust on it, right? You can't just circulate the air.

 

[FrostedBakes]

Perhaps you just misspoke, but you want the 2700Ks for flower, and the 6500Ks for Veg. What is the black thing on that blue wire shelf? A carbon scrubber? You know you are going to need an intake and exhaust on it, right? You can't just circulate the air.

the exhaust fan is behind the scrubber(i have a fan blowing into the scrubber, is that not a sufficent scrubber?) and plan on putting in intake fan when money is avalible box is not completely done

 

[Joey56789]

Well if the exhaust fan is sufficient, you don't want an intake fan. That keeps the box negative pressure, and pulls everything through the carbon and out the back.

 

[Anti]

Yeah. Listen to Joey. He's on the money. Preferably, you'd want your fan mounted so that it vents directly out of the box and you'd want the carbon right BEFORE the fan in the chain so that the fan is PULLING air through the scrubber. With that, you won't need (or want) an intake fan. The act of exhausting the room will create a vaccuum which will pull fresh air in through your passive intake port. (Intake at bottom, exhaust at top.)

From Pic #5, it looks like you've maybe got a a fan in there attached to your carbon, but it's just venting the filtered air back into the grow! attach your fan to the rear wall for stealth and have it pull (instead of push) the carbon and then make a passive intake near the bottom and you'll be set.

As far as lights go, 23w CFLs produce somewhere around 1300 lumens. You've got a 0.54 sq ft area. So (4) 23w x 1300 = 9629 lumens per sq ft. Which is probably more than you really need.

3 of them would be 7222 lumens per sq ft... which is just about perfect. (Shoot for a max of 7500 without CO2 or 10,000 WITH CO2.)

2 of them would be 4814 lumens per sq ft. Which is probably fine. If I were you, I'd probably just get two 27w CFLs, which produce about 1600 lumen each, 3200/0.54 = 5925 lumens per square foot.

 

[FrostedBakes]

thanks anti for the scrubber info and i am going to have to have an in take fan atleast a small one cuase exhaust fan is very tiny and so is the port. so will two small pc fans be ok for intake and exhaust?

 

[Joey56789]

It would be best to have a more powerful fan on the exhaust so you get the negative pressure effect. And as Anti said, make the exhaust pull through the carbon filter. You will get some odor removal just moving air around through the scrubber in there, but not enough to keep it stealthy.

 

[FrostedBakes]

It would be best to have a more powerful fan on the exhaust so you get the negative pressure effect. And as Anti said, make the exhaust pull through the carbon filter. You will get some odor removal just moving air around through the scrubber in there, but not enough to keep it stealthy.

so what your saying is even if i switch around the fan to have air pulled through instead of pushed through the carbon there will still be a smell(enough to suggest im growing)

 

[FirstTracks]

so what your saying is even if i switch around the fan to have air pulled through instead of pushed through the carbon there will still be a smell(enough to suggest im growing)

What you want to do (as previously mentioned) is set up exhaust so that growroom air is sucked into the carbon fi;ter with a fan pulling through the carbon and the fan exhausting straight out of the box. Otherwise you're really not using the filter effectively and ayou won't be filtering all the smell thats coming out of the box.

your pc can may not have enough static pressure to pull through the filter, so I'd suggest possibly using an A/C powered pc style fan (get it at radioshack for $15 or $20) because of the higher static pressure ability.

Since your box is so small, it wouldn't hurt to have a small PC fan or two on the intake, as long as your exhaust was pulling more air out of the box than was going in. Budget at least a 1/3 drop in the volume of air moved by a fan when it is being used with a carbon filter.

Try to get the plants as close to the CFLs as possible to maximize growth, as the lights really don't perform optimally at any distance greater than 6" in my experience (you really want them within 2" if you can maintain those levels of adjustment.

Topping and training with CFLs can be very helpful unless you're growing from clone and can keep your plants less than 9" tall or so. That's just due to the penetration issues with the light put off by CFLs.

don't take what i've said as anything negative towards CFLs. They'll still grow quality buds if you're doing things right, and are great for tight environments like that speaker box. The only big shortcoming that I can think of besides what I've already mentioned is that your buds won't get as big or be as dense as they would be under a higher powered HPS or MH light.

IME, its often better to go with smaller/less lights (as you're already doing)to keep heat down rather than heat up a small space with lights that are too big.

Remember with feeding that you can always add more nutrients, but especially with soil, if too high a nutrient concentration is used, it can take a plant a while to recover from nute overdoses, even when flushed out really well.

Keep in mind when using duct tape that, when it heats up, over time it becomes brittle, and IME less effective. I prefer to go with the slightly more expensive aluminum tape for a longer lasting solution that retains its integrity over time.


What strain(s) will you be growing in there. No worries if its just bagseed. One of my first successful indoor micro grows was with bagseed and I loved it. Usually totally different in terms of quality than from where it came, at least if you got your seed from brick weed, like I did back in the day.

Will be checkin back in to see how you're doing!

be well

 

[Anti]

thanks anti for the scrubber info and i am going to have to have an in take fan atleast a small one cuase exhaust fan is very tiny and so is the port. so will two small pc fans be ok for intake and exhaust?

Especially in a space that small, you don't need an intake fan. If the fan you have right now is as weak as you fear, use it just to circulate air in the room and get another PC fan (as suggested above) that's more powerful to use as your exhaust fan. You have - at max - a few cubic feet or less of space in that box. So that means if you had a 20 CFM fan it'd be replacing the entire volume of the air in the speaker 5-10 times per minute. That's why you won't need an intake fan. It'll be coming in just fine on it's own, once you've got the whole environment sealed and the fan hooked up to exhaust.

 

[FrostedBakes]

firsttracks thank you and i did have a 1000w hps agro sun bulb but when me and my friend started his walkin closet his parents found it and asked us to remove them(atleast they didn't kill them) so we did and when i took them to this kids house(thought was my friend) set it up the plants died cause he was an idiot, then to top it off stole my bangin asss light so the is why i am doin some micro just to see how it goes. i am using bagseed but it comes from some pretty good heads dont know the strain but we wil see. oh and im a noobie to volume and air calculations

 

[FrostedBakes]

what do you mean by static pressure cause the fan attached to the carbon filter blows harder than my pc fan does connected to my tower. so i dont know if its powerful enough. thanks for the help guys really doing me wonders...lol

 

[Joey56789]

Static pressure means there is back pressure the fan has to push through because of something constricting it, like the scrubber. The fan should be working harder pushing through that scrubber then when it isn't pushing though anything. If it is pushing a decent amount of air through the scrubber, then you should be getting decent airflow provided the intake is big enough. Now if it actually removes all the smell is a different matter, and you will probably just need to see if it works or not.

 

[FirstTracks]

firsttracks thank you and i did have a 1000w hps agro sun bulb but when me and my friend started his walkin closet his parents found it and asked us to remove them(atleast they didn't kill them) so we did and when i took them to this kids house(thought was my friend) set it up the plants died cause he was an idiot, then to top it off stole my bangin asss light so the is why i am doin some micro just to see how it goes. i am using bagseed but it comes from some pretty good heads dont know the strain but we wil see. oh and im a noobie to volume and air calculations

Glad you were respectful of his parents' wishes. not to be a jerk, but, IMHO, no one should grow in their parents house without them knowing and without explicit permission. Rhat's just putting the parents at risk without them even knowing about the possible trouble they could get in.

Maybe its just how I was raised, but that's a serious breech of trust and respect between children and parents. Worse, if it isn't in a super friendly state, its really putting the parents at risk of losing their house, and possibly more. I don't know how it is with everyone these days, but at least some parents would freely put themselves in harm's way if that meant protecting one of their children. If that meant losing their job, house, and freedom by taking the fall, they'd still do it just to make sure Jr. didn't see a day behind bars.

I sincerely hope your current grow is in a location owned or rented by you outside of your parents' house unless they are fully aware of it.

Just as a side note, back whenever, some of my friends would just grow outdoors. they wanted their own stash, just understood the concept of consequences, even if they only saw the consequences as their dad giving them a swift kick in the ass.

 

[FrostedBakes]

firsttrack i am completely with you on the parents respect, i honestly thought they knew cause my friend told me they were cool about it..but besides that they were cool about it his dad wished we were around when he was growing, he said it touched his heart to see his son growing good plants, but respectfully asked us to continue our adventure else where.......

 

[FirstTracks]

firsttrack i am completely with you on the parents respect, i honestly thought they knew cause my friend told me they were cool about it..but besides that they were cool about it his dad wished we were around when he was growing, he said it touched his heart to see his son growing good plants, but respectfully asked us to continue our adventure else where.......

cool!Sounds like some good parenting