Fakir710
Active member
Hi buddies! Hope you all right. Im breaking my head trying to guess whats happening to some of my girls. Problems become harder to guess when i try to contrast information with the grow store guy and an experienced friend...
Some plants started to sprout them new leaves in a light green / yellowish colour, usually that lime green golour is normal in new leaves and becomes darkers as the leaves grows, but this was not the case.
First of all symptoms appeared in some Bodhi Seeds Lemon Lotus i germinated a month and a half or so with no problems, from yoghurt pots 10 days later they went to 3litre pots with fresh new soil (Canna Professional + light mix), while in the 3 litre pot i topped them and prunned them in terms of open the plants and make a kind of bush structure. After the second prune and shibari them they grew for a couple days and then looked like stop growing. the new set of leaves started to grow more yellow than normal, i thought that this couldnt be a lack of nitrogen cause its a mobile nutrient and it will start in the bottom part of the plant, but botton fan leaves looked like a bit more pale than 2 days ago, so i decide to give them so Bio Vega (Grow fertilizer) in a 350ppm dose. (Small dose, I start with R/O water, Cal/MAG till 200ppm and then put the feeds on it.) But the next they they still blocked. Then i though it could be a lack of micro or quelates, so i sprayed and water them some Bio Vera (Aloe Vera with Molibdene, Manganesum, Iron... blabla). Nothing happened in the next days, except some plants from clone started to show the same palish colour in the upper leaves. They were in 3litre pots for 20 days, so i decided to transplant them 5 days ago to a 11 litre (3gal) pot with fresh new soil with some food on it (All mix from Biobizz), watered them with somo H&G Roots Excelurator (Root Stimulator) and they still block, not growing, not yellowing more at all (or at least way slow), alive, not drying the soil at all (thing thats make me think they are block, but why? Looking for info the most closer thing is a lack of iron but how and why? Never had this problem and im always using the same method, never had lack of iron in any of my plants.
I phone called a friend and i told him whats happening and he told me the same, looks like lack of iron. Im not 100% sure. So yesterday i sprayed again with some Phosphoric Soap as a soaking agent and some Acti Vera as Quelates. Went to the local Grow Shop to show some pics to the guy from the store asking for help and he started to ask me set up and temps question... bla bla..., everything is on fleek except the fact that i water little water for so many plants and they never have all the medium wet at all so they can't eat all the food from the soil. (I repeat, always watered like this and never had problems, but gonna start to water more.) So he guess the problem comes from here and thats all, he recomends me to use some Formulex via foliar spray today, and another application three days later. okay so i did formulex spray today, gonna wait till tomorrow but plants look exactly the same.
This is Formulex:
N - 2,29%.
P - 0,87%.
K - 3,36%.
Ca - 1,85%.
Cu - 0,002%.
I - 0,040%.
Mn - 0,010%.
Mo - 0,001%.
Zn - 0,0025%.
This is Acti Vera
Mg - 0.01%
Cu - 30mg/kg
Mn - 321mg/kg
Zn - 70mg/kg
I - 3420mg/kg
B - 191mg/kg
Mo - 30mg/kg
Ph - 4.15
I absolutely spray lights off.
Okey so, there's some data of what im using and room temps and the steps i did for the last 3 weeks etc.
Temps Min 20ºC
Temps Max 28ºC
Temp Media 24ºC/25ºC
RH Min 50%
RH Max 80%
Fans are working all day, room feels right, not so cool, not so hot and you can breath in perfectly.
I used Extreme Gardening Azos and Mykos for transplanting to the the 3 litre pot with Canna Porfessional Soil Light Mix
I water with R/O Water, Cal Mag till 200ppm/400us, H&G Roots Excelurator, Atami B'cuzz Silica Boost and Ph 6.0-6.5 always.
I did a couple waterings with Xtreme Gardening Tea Brew (Kelp, Humic Acids, Compost and Earthworm castings.) This is bubbled with airstones for 48 hours and dilutted 1 litre for every gallon.
I did one watering and one foliar spray with Acti Vera.
I did one feeding day to all the plants with 350ppm and other feed day to the Lemon Lotus aswell (The most poor looking of them all) with another 350ppm. (350 is the total ppm i got Mixing Canna Bio Vega (grow fertilizer), Roots, Silica Boost and Cal/Mag)
If i need to add Ph + or Ph - they are always from organic sources.
I always measure my Ph and Ec
I did watered so little water, 21 litres for 70 plants every other day. I didn't let them dry at all (don't let the plant dehidrate), but try to keep the soil moist but not super heavy watered. I always did like this.
All my other plants, the ones that are not showing this syptoms, looks fucking perfect, the ones that look bad they all look like afected by the same lack/excess/virus/fungus/microbe/whatever shit it is...
First gonna show you how they looked the first week in the 3 litre fresh new soil pot with azos and mykos. (3 weeks ago aprox)
They look perfect right?
After Shibari and top them again.
Still looking healthy right?
Continue in next post.
Some plants started to sprout them new leaves in a light green / yellowish colour, usually that lime green golour is normal in new leaves and becomes darkers as the leaves grows, but this was not the case.
First of all symptoms appeared in some Bodhi Seeds Lemon Lotus i germinated a month and a half or so with no problems, from yoghurt pots 10 days later they went to 3litre pots with fresh new soil (Canna Professional + light mix), while in the 3 litre pot i topped them and prunned them in terms of open the plants and make a kind of bush structure. After the second prune and shibari them they grew for a couple days and then looked like stop growing. the new set of leaves started to grow more yellow than normal, i thought that this couldnt be a lack of nitrogen cause its a mobile nutrient and it will start in the bottom part of the plant, but botton fan leaves looked like a bit more pale than 2 days ago, so i decide to give them so Bio Vega (Grow fertilizer) in a 350ppm dose. (Small dose, I start with R/O water, Cal/MAG till 200ppm and then put the feeds on it.) But the next they they still blocked. Then i though it could be a lack of micro or quelates, so i sprayed and water them some Bio Vera (Aloe Vera with Molibdene, Manganesum, Iron... blabla). Nothing happened in the next days, except some plants from clone started to show the same palish colour in the upper leaves. They were in 3litre pots for 20 days, so i decided to transplant them 5 days ago to a 11 litre (3gal) pot with fresh new soil with some food on it (All mix from Biobizz), watered them with somo H&G Roots Excelurator (Root Stimulator) and they still block, not growing, not yellowing more at all (or at least way slow), alive, not drying the soil at all (thing thats make me think they are block, but why? Looking for info the most closer thing is a lack of iron but how and why? Never had this problem and im always using the same method, never had lack of iron in any of my plants.
I phone called a friend and i told him whats happening and he told me the same, looks like lack of iron. Im not 100% sure. So yesterday i sprayed again with some Phosphoric Soap as a soaking agent and some Acti Vera as Quelates. Went to the local Grow Shop to show some pics to the guy from the store asking for help and he started to ask me set up and temps question... bla bla..., everything is on fleek except the fact that i water little water for so many plants and they never have all the medium wet at all so they can't eat all the food from the soil. (I repeat, always watered like this and never had problems, but gonna start to water more.) So he guess the problem comes from here and thats all, he recomends me to use some Formulex via foliar spray today, and another application three days later. okay so i did formulex spray today, gonna wait till tomorrow but plants look exactly the same.
This is Formulex:
N - 2,29%.
P - 0,87%.
K - 3,36%.
Ca - 1,85%.
Cu - 0,002%.
I - 0,040%.
Mn - 0,010%.
Mo - 0,001%.
Zn - 0,0025%.
This is Acti Vera
Mg - 0.01%
Cu - 30mg/kg
Mn - 321mg/kg
Zn - 70mg/kg
I - 3420mg/kg
B - 191mg/kg
Mo - 30mg/kg
Ph - 4.15
I absolutely spray lights off.
Okey so, there's some data of what im using and room temps and the steps i did for the last 3 weeks etc.
Temps Min 20ºC
Temps Max 28ºC
Temp Media 24ºC/25ºC
RH Min 50%
RH Max 80%
Fans are working all day, room feels right, not so cool, not so hot and you can breath in perfectly.
I used Extreme Gardening Azos and Mykos for transplanting to the the 3 litre pot with Canna Porfessional Soil Light Mix
I water with R/O Water, Cal Mag till 200ppm/400us, H&G Roots Excelurator, Atami B'cuzz Silica Boost and Ph 6.0-6.5 always.
I did a couple waterings with Xtreme Gardening Tea Brew (Kelp, Humic Acids, Compost and Earthworm castings.) This is bubbled with airstones for 48 hours and dilutted 1 litre for every gallon.
I did one watering and one foliar spray with Acti Vera.
I did one feeding day to all the plants with 350ppm and other feed day to the Lemon Lotus aswell (The most poor looking of them all) with another 350ppm. (350 is the total ppm i got Mixing Canna Bio Vega (grow fertilizer), Roots, Silica Boost and Cal/Mag)
If i need to add Ph + or Ph - they are always from organic sources.
I always measure my Ph and Ec
I did watered so little water, 21 litres for 70 plants every other day. I didn't let them dry at all (don't let the plant dehidrate), but try to keep the soil moist but not super heavy watered. I always did like this.
All my other plants, the ones that are not showing this syptoms, looks fucking perfect, the ones that look bad they all look like afected by the same lack/excess/virus/fungus/microbe/whatever shit it is...
First gonna show you how they looked the first week in the 3 litre fresh new soil pot with azos and mykos. (3 weeks ago aprox)
They look perfect right?
After Shibari and top them again.
Still looking healthy right?
Continue in next post.
