Interstate Travel K9 ?

[IE2KS_KUSH]

OK,
Hypothetically, if one were traveling cross country, w/ a payload of grow equip packed, and maybe a few or 4 ish ounces, and maybe a few superball sized hash balls, and maybe 3 or 4 3ft bongs, and a couple of vaporizers.
Everything, tags, insurance, lights, etc.., on the vehicle is clean good, registered owner.

I realize that you need to drive the speed limit, break no laws etc...
I know, that despite this, I could be pulled over. I know how to handle leo, however I also know that I am usually asked,
"Do you have ....in the vehicle, anything?"
"No sir I do not."
"Do you mind if I have a look then?"
"No sir, I do not give consent to search."
"Well, if you don't have anything to hide, blah blah, on and on.."
"No I do not give consent to search."
"I will have a drug dog come out then."
At this point, I would be fucked. There is no way a dog isn't going to hit all over my vehicle.
So....
My question is this.
What do you do at this point? I don't see how the driver in my hypothetical doesn't end up busted. Am I looking at this wrong? Am I overthinking this? I realize that it is unlikely that I would get pulled over if I did not violate any traffic laws, however I know first hand that anything can happen, blown fuse, lights go out, cop makes up bullshit reason for the stop, god hates me, whatever. It does happen. So what do you do if it gets to the point where the leo wants to bring out a K9? Kiss your ass goodbye?

 

[lordbudly]

my suggestion, large ramming rod, lots of vaseline, and the will of god

 

[Toad]

As lordbudly implies, if cops want something, they will get it. Whether or not such evidence would be thrown out in court, doesn't really matter to them...

If I were in that situation, I would only carry the legal items (grow items) and either have another car carrying the stash or just leave the stash and hook up when you arrive at your destination.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Uh, thanks but no thanks lord lol. Another issue would be that one of the states it is the same charge for possession of any amount, as it is for even grow equip, bongs, vape grinders, etc.....
I could leave the stash, but not the glass! It would break my heart, and not be easy to replace. So part of me is kinda like, "if I would get the same charge regardless of whether or not I took the stash then..."
But the other part says, "If you get stopped and busted, as soon as they see all the equip, they are gonna go biizerk and nail you up to the wall and let you sort it out in court."
I have contemplated shipping, but no return address, and I would not want to just use a random one and lay that on some unsuspecting person you know..
Oh,
and there is no possible way in hell, that when I get to where I am going, that I would ever in a millon years be able to get anything in the same ballpark or game for that matter compared to what I have. My own personal homegrown, it's bomb, and compared to what is available there, it's not even funny.
Thanks for the input guys, anyone else have anything to add to make me feel any better about taking everything with me. Oh and I didn't even mention the seed, forgot, but yeah, if I get stopped, it will make headlines, they will probably start jacking off right there on the interstate thinking they got a kingpin or something.
I should just forget about the stash and hash, and just bring the seeds and equipment. Just sucks knowing that it may be months before I can even set back up. That's kinda what I am looking at.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

my suggestion, large ramming rod, lots of vaseline, and the will of god

lol, gotta spread the rep around some more. I would need a real big ass to get it all in there, I don't think I have the room. I will have my wife look really close tonight, guess if she can get her arm up to her shoulder in there then that may be a possibility lol.

 

[alpinestar]

if it was a very long trip id say no, but if you dont think you will run into any car troubles, then dont worry. drive safely, dont smoke on the drive dont look like someone who gets high, and there shouldnt be any reason in a cop's mind to ask you about drugs if you do get pulled over

dont have stickers on the back of your vehicle, especially bands or rasta or surfer/ young people shit
unless its a political sticker (and not a liberal like ron paul ) or a fraternal order of police sticker dont leave it on your car

also the vehicle should not have window tint, as this also raises suspicion with cops

present yourself as clean and nerdy: collared shirt, clean shave, hair cut etc.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

it is a very, very, very long trip. I may be stopping and doing it over 2 days. Man, I just keep going back and forth in my mind. I know I play straight very well, never considered it an option to smoke at all during the trip. I just don't know. I know, I should forget the stash and the hash, and just take the equipment and seeds, and bongs, and grinders, and vapes, but I am just stupid.

 

[lordbudly]

Thanks for the input guys, anyone else have anything to add to make me feel any better about taking everything with me. Oh and I didn't even mention the seed, forgot, but yeah, if I get stopped, it will make headlines, they will probably start jacking off right there on the interstate thinking they got a kingpin or something.
I should just forget about the stash and hash, and just bring the seeds and equipment. Just sucks knowing that it may be months before I can even set back up. That's kinda what I am looking at.

look at it this way, if they bust you and go to jail, bubba in cell block 9 will help you expand your storage space previously mentioned







you got lots of friends from canncom and here that will be willing to help?







erm.... you make crazy stories about dreams you had including your evil wife? any better yet?

 

[h^2 O]

if the bongs and vaporizers are clean and the weed and hash is SEALED and surrounded by ground coffee the dogs wont pick it up.
Also, it would prob take a good 30 mins for a k9 unit to get there, so unless you have a doober behind your ear and the cop sees it, it would, in theory, be unlawful "detainment"? Like they can't have you sit on the side of the highway for 45 mins just because they want to be a dick. Thats when you call their police station and tell them to get a sergeant out to you because the moron who's there is violating your rights.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

look at it this way, if they bust you and go to jail, bubba in cell block 9 will help you expand your storage space previously mentioned







you got lots of friends from canncom and here that will be willing to help?







erm.... you make crazy stories about dreams you had including your evil wife? any better yet?

Oh yaha! Been sleeping like a rock! As kinda mediocreish as my stash is, it is awesome for me, kills me to fold up shop now that I am to the point of never ending self grown, kills me more to not take that stash w/ me. I could sell it, but I would never get what it's worth to me, and then I would not be able to take the money and replace it once I got there, so blah! Sucks ass. Best to just leave it, and take my seeds and gear. Actually, maybe I will ship the glass and grinders and vape. I dunno. Getting ready to gift my current flowering HB SAT and Nirvana MK tonight along w/ the mother, and 7 clones ready to flower. This is worse than any nightmare. Well, I am gonna go use my tail pipe as a bong and see how that works, later. (Just kidding) About the tail pipe part, I am gonna go blow some more stash and hash, just out of a normal bong.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

if the bongs and vaporizers are clean and the weed and hash is SEALED and surrounded by ground coffee the dogs wont pick it up.
Also, it would prob take a good 30 mins for a k9 unit to get there, so unless you have a doober behind your ear and the cop sees it, it would, in theory, be unlawful "detainment"? Like they can't have you sit on the side of the highway for 45 mins just because they want to be a dick. Thats when you call their police station and tell them to get a sergeant out to you because the moron who's there is violating your rights.

Well, they will be as clean as possible, maybe, or I may ship them. As far as the unlawful detainment, yeah I understand that. But for example in FL I believe that if you violate any traffic law and they stop you, they can lawfully detain you for up to 45 minutes, while a drug dog comes. I don't know the specifics in every state I will be in, but yeah. I know I would need to ask him, "Am I being detained officer?" But I know that if some cowboy stops me and even if everything is good, there is still the outside chance that he doesn't care about or is ignorant to how he is violating my rights, and I would have a problem still in the short term. I just can't imagine getting pulled over if vehicle is clean, registered to me, I am stone sober, and not violating any traffic laws. But then I think, well, it is me....

 

[Lazyman]

Just avoid driving through texas, oklahoma, etc, try to just hopscotch from one MMJ state to the next, lol (I know, not possible, yet!) Box all your gear up and label it "clothes" sewing material" etc, and hide all of your stash as good as you can, drive like a priest and pray!

 

[InjectTruth]

Just mail all the equipment. Use a buddy's house as a return address or get a p.o. box. I dont know why you would even consider dragging all that shit with you, while 1000's of online retailers ship that kind of stuff on a daily basis with no problems.

Just worry about the weed, hash, and glass. Oh yeah, and the coffee grounds thing mentioned above is not true. Search "Never Get Busted" and "Never Get Raided", as well as "Busted: Citizen's Guide To Police Encounters" and "Don't Talk to Police" on youtube, google.com/video, or on torrent sites.

Solid 5 hours of pertinent info from multiple perspectives/professions.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

I would love to ship all that shit, but really, I don't think I would be able to, maybe the hoods, lights, but that's gonna get expensive quick, and I am broke w/ moving. It may be very likely that I end up pulling a uhaul trailer, so I guess that taking any stash is outta the question. I am just gonna smoke everything I can, finish up 12 or so cans of vector, and melt my brain w/ some bho for a weekish straight or so, I dunno. Someone I know here is gonna be really happy when I leave and they get my stash, at least he'll put it to good use I guess.
Oh I am gonna mail my seeds for sure, already did in fact. So all I will have is really clean equipment and some actual stuff like clothes and shit. Oh...and the glass, yeah I am shipping that and the vapes and grinders, so guess that's pretty much it.
If you are pulling a uhaul, heading west to east or from sw to east, that's like probably not really good. I can't even count how many times I have seen HP going through a uhaul truck or trailer, naw fuck that. I am over it I guess, already plotting and planning the next round from seed. I think I will pop all the last of the Hashberry first, 4 or 5, and go from there. Aww, nevermind rambling here. Thanks all, for the info. Guess the only 100% chance is to not bring it, that's what I need, just gotta suck it up.

 

[SouthernGuerila]

I think this goes to the same thread about flying domestic or international flights with cannabis.

If you dont have the brains or balls, don't do it.
Be respectful to any police you have any dealings with, do not give them probable cause. Be stone sober.

And clean your paraphernalia, spotless. I'm not going into details on obscuring your herb or hash. This is where brains and balls plays a role.

 

[ocean99]

Mail the glass, keep the stash sealed surrounded by coffee grounds as was mentioned earlier. In what state is it illegal to have grow lights?

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

in ks

"Possession of paraphernalia for personal us is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Possession of paraphernalia that would be used for planting or growing more than five marijuana plants is punishable by 10 - 42 months in jail and a fine of up to $100,000."

how they determine tat i have no idea but thats the law.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

although i will deny consent then they can bring 2dogs for all i care would not have anything that would make the dogs hit on me. so i would think that it would be fine clean, equipment only.

 

[InjectTruth]

Another excellent option for carrying your stash would be to convert it into edibles. Not the typical pot brownies either.

Make tinctures and keep it in old herbal extract bottles, like valerian root, make an oreo no bake cheese cake with weed/hash in both the crust and the filling, make some green dragon, and disguise it as mamahuana with a big piece of sugar cane in it. Go cannabrex style and make some kief/olive oil/cayenne pepper caps and put it in a st. johns wort bottle, etc. etc.

When it comes to edibles the possibilities are endless. Not only does that help in and of itself but do some research on Watermelon's case up in B.C. She got busted for selling pot cookies, but fought the case and won when the lab couldnt prove their were cannabinoids in the cookies. Now, whether she was ripping people off or if cooking changes the molecule to a form normal tests dont notice, I dont know, but its an interesting fact to ponder nonetheless.

As far as the grow equipment, keep a bunch of specialty seeds like miracle fruit, goji berry, maybe even some cactus species, and front like you are a small scale exotic nursery supplier (or seed supplier of heirloom varieties) if the issue arises. Its not paraphernalia if its being used for something legitimate.

 

[MtnKuSh]

this happen to me once...i told them no they can not search..they said they was calling k9 i said do what the fuck you want but im not letting you guys search my vehicle it is my right to tell you pigs to fuck off and your not entering my car or searching it.. they swore they was going to find sumthing and thought i was transposting pounds of eather weed or cocoa being this is what i hurd them telling eachother as they call for backup and k9..i just sat there lol as they grew even more pist off..i kept lol. k9 shows up and goes threw my outside of the car and then inside my car after saying the dogs smells sumthing...little did they know.. that they would find..NOTHING.! kinda asked for my ticket and told them they are waisting there and my time and would like to go now being they have no reason to hold me. got me a seatbelt ticket as i smiled and just got in my car and drove away.