internodal spacing far too close

[No see Ums]

instead of wasting a bunch of time, im going to get right to it. two veg rounds in a row have internodes that are literally centimeters apart. 1K's are 5 to 6ft above canopy, most are set to 600 now, and all environmental conditions, along with nutrients, are identical to previous normal growth and are within optimal ranges.

healthy clones from three different sources, are all growing new healthy, green growth that has node spacing so tiny, my first thought was that someone poisoned our water with pgr's. 4 weeks of veg in a hugo always correlates to at least a 3 to 4ft tall plant, these are only 12in or less, but with far more nodes than the usually four footer. and frankly, these stunted little fuckers have more matted roots under the hugo than normal. bright white roots, green growth.

now, i have no interest in hearing " you want tight node spacing" . i currently have one pic for an example and its after 2 weeks of flowering and them " stretching" . its ridiculous, i have never in my life seen such compact growth while also seeing a huge healthy root system, and no leaf discoloration. i will post more pics tomorrow of the new vegging plants, that seem to be starting to do the same thing.

thanks for any help, im going crazy trying to figure out what would cause this. i even made sure the difference in day and night temperature was larger to try and increase node spacing both times.


two weeks into bloom after she stretched to twice what her internode length was

 

[Dankwolf]

K value of lights may have changed (for what ever reson) to higher kalvin rating ?

Nitorgen avability in nutrebts may be different then prevoius runs ( manufactures change recipe often with out a heads up )?

Clones came off a reveg plant and structure has changed ( vendors dont say every thing)?

Not all generations of clones act the same ?

Temps are to low ?

Water source may have differnt values due to time of year?

Thats all i can think of off hand . i am sure there are more possible reasons vut cant think of them at moment . when and if i think of any thing els i will update .good luck

 

[Dankwolf]

I hate no see ums lol .biting little fuckers

 

[No see Ums]

no high k levels

veg is 24, high 80, low 70

water source is RO, recently changed filters. starting ppm 50

thanks

 

[No see Ums]

and by different sources, i didnt mean vendors. different gardens , but not foreign.

 

[No see Ums]

lets say your right about nitrogen availability.... we use mills. other spots are not effected . plus from the last veg to this new one acting the same, new batch number of bottles

 

[Dankwolf]

lets say your right about nitrogen availability.... we use mills. other spots are not effected . plus from the last veg to this new one acting the same, new batch number of bottles

Do other "spots" have same batch id number on there fertilizer ?

I would xall mills and see if they changed any thing ? Maybe they have test batches of fert with differnt ratio's of and or addition of growth hormone's ?



Every time i have had a anomaly such as yours it alqays turend out to be a over looked/missed factor usually due to assumption. No dissrespect ment but maybe faulty equipment and or faulty helper lol.

 

[Dankwolf]

Two people that mite have a better more elaborate/educated opinion that i would ask is RubeGoldberg and or slownickel here on icmag

 

[No see Ums]

i did contact mills, and other spots have the same batch numbers.

 

[No see Ums]

and you are being very respectful, i appreciate you taking the time to respond

 

[Dankwolf]

and you are being very respectful, i appreciate you taking the time to respond

I tried .icmag is like a econd home for me. The people here tend to be vary helpfull and willing to help . wish i could have helped more i am sure you will figure it out .