Interesting hermaphrodite

[smokeee]

Just looking to hear some thoughts or input...
My gear has been in storage for awhile, and my stored genetics turned out to be too old to pop.
I recently came across some reggie that was surprisingly good, so I popped some beans for a test run on my equipment.
After two days I had 8 beans that popped, and after a few weeks I had 4 male and 4 female. (very fast)
Females went to the grow room, and males went outside.
The males all produced big fat pollen sacks for a couple of weeks.
-Then one day I noticed one particular male has little bud sites starting up all over it. After a couple of weeks, the cola is quite large and appears very dense.
Meanwhile the females inside on 12/12 are growing great, but they are nowhere near as mature as this hermaphrodite.
As of now the hermies pollen sacks are starting to fall away and the bud sites are all getting phat really quick.
Characteristics are very intriguing, but I wonder if I should bother with it at all. Any thoughts?

 

[Dropped Cat]

If it were me I would collect its pollen to have it for later
projects.

Finish the grow, dry and cure that bud. Smoke it.

Let us know whatever you decide.

Pics?

 

[smokeee]

Pollen collection

Pollen collection

Here's a quick pic showing the purple hermie.
I woulda got more but its freezing out there!

I've always culled males, so this is new ground for me...
What's the best way to collect the pollen on an outdoor plant?
I'd rather not cut a branch and lose bud sites.
Can I just pinch the sacks off and save them?
How long can it be stored without losing viability?

 

[Dropped Cat]

Real pretty, if you can get a small flowering shoot to keep
in a jar of water, inside more control to get the pollen.

 

[seventhchild]

As of now the hermies pollen sacks are starting to fall away and the bud sites are all getting phat really quick.
Characteristics are very intriguing, but I wonder if I should bother with it at all. Any thoughts?

they're getting fat because seeds are developing inside the bud.resin production has stopped and any increase in weight/size is seed not smokable bud.its a typical male dominate herm,nothing special about it. kill that freak and destroy all seeds .

 

[PinkMagic]

I will not keep it. The main reason is due to the fact that if the plant is a hermie, then it can possibly pass the "hermie" trait to its future offspring.

 

[Gram Paw smurf]

Thing is, is that really a bad thing?
I've been noticing some anecdotal signs of traits being passed on to specific sex, just like anything else far as I've seen.
So I've wondered if that's the case, can a hermie trait be passed on but more specifically to males rather than fems.
If so it may be a trait isolation of sorts.
Is it really as big an issue to have a male producing bud compared to a female dropping pollen?
Not far as I've seen.
Not like anyone keeping males shouldn't be prepared for their isolation anyhow.
If it is in a way isolating the trait from the fems of the line, than sounds more like a desired trait than undesirable to me.
Besides what better way to test a male and what it's offspring may produce than to see it actually produce flowers and many more observable traits than normally afforded with them.
Pretty sure it's been discussed on the boards b4 by sam and others.
Why not use it for something you can set aside as a side project?
Than you'd possibly see answers for yourself instead of looking for answers from everyone else who hasn't really got any more than your best guess may offer frankly. lol
Good, bad, desirable, undesirable, all subjective, as is the nature of selection in any sort of breeding, add only having a portion of the facts n reality is nobody's that great an expert to any real extent.
So why not fiddle around n find out some of the facts for yourself while you've got the chance, instead of depending upon what other ppl advise you on their obtained portion of facts which is as incomplete as everyone elses. lol
Play around a bit n nvr know what actual facts you may find along the way imo.

cheers,.............................................gps

 

[xxPeacePipexx]

So called herms can be interesting yes , but most of them are a pain in the ass regardless if they throw viable pollen in mass quantities or not . The rest that dont can still be a nuisance and do crop damage if not kept in check .

Honestly the whole Super Male theory is just that , nobody knows for certain how this trait is passed down , or even if it could be a recessive gene passed on from a subspecies . I swear some of the truest of herms seem as if they are of another subspecies compared to the cannabis we all know and love .

 

[seventhchild]

if this plant has seeds inside the buds it is not a "male producing buds".it is a female producing pollen.a normal ol HERMIE,nothing special about it.it came from a bag of "reggie" AKA mexican , again nothing special. the pic the OP posted is mostly leaf and pollen sac,both make really crappy smoke.
if the OP is going to try breeding this mex he should know that using the males that came from the same batch of seeds as the females will produce seeds that grow what??? MORE OF THE SAME aka MORE MEX.
hey smokeee how about an update.does the herm have seeds? how are those indoor ladies looking? wasup?

 

[Gram Paw smurf]

A male can throw out bud n than pollinate itself same as a fem gone herm, it doesn't make it a fem gone herm just makes it a male gone herm.
What shows 1st is what dictates what it was b4 it herm'd not whether it's got seeds or not.

cheers,..................................gps

 

[seventhchild]

A male can throw out bud n than pollinate itself same as a fem gone herm, it doesn't make it a fem gone herm just makes it a male gone herm.
What shows 1st is what dictates what it was b4 it herm'd not whether it's got seeds or not.

cheers,..................................gps

the plant started out as a male then reversed sex and became a female.it is a female with hermi traits.what it is expressing at end of life is what it is.this is commen in mexican plants.either way,it's shit weed and not worth keeping.

 

[smokeee]

Since last post, I have noticed the hermie reverting back to mostly male pollen production and female calyx growth has stopped.
Currently I would estimate the plant to be about 80-85% pollen sacs.
But about 15-20% are calyx, and they look swollen.
Almost all of the purple colors have gone as well.
I have collected a ton of pollen, but not sure if I'll bother using it.
Pretty sure I'll collect some seeds in a couple of weeks as well.

 

[smokeee]

The females

The females

Yes, since I had no decent genetics on hand, plus my gear hasn't been used in a couple of years, I used seeds from some very interesting bag of Mexican landrace for a test run.

Good thing I did too! Previously, I had been very lucky and never had any sort of pest or disease problems. But these females have had it rough.

This test run has just passed the 100 day mark since seed. I have battled nutrient issues since day one, which turned out to be mostly residual salt in my coir.
Even though I never had to rinse this brand before, I should have...

Next, there was a crinkle leaf issue, and I suspect tobacco mosaic virus was the culprit there, not any nutrient issue.

Most recently I have been battling white fly issues as well.

These four ladies have each displayed different phenotypes.
Although I expected strong sativa or pure sativa, each one has also shown some indica characteristics as well.

Very low odor, with a deep musky scent that's only noticeable when squeezed. Extremely dense and vigorous growth pattern, despite poor plant health.
Buds are covered in big fat crystals, but it doesn't appear frosty. Overall, just short, thick, and hardy plants.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=58341

 

[stoned-trout]

best use

 

[meadowman]

made my day with that pic^^^lmao