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Insulated Duct Noise Reduction???

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Lammen Gorthaur
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Has anyone had luck in reducing fan noise (dramatically, I mean) using insulated 4" round duct? I am shooting for pure silence and having problems. I need to probably build out pre-muffler or put the fan in a muffler box. Thoughts?
 

intotheunknown

Active member
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i would not say that between insulated/non insulated ducting there is a night and day difference... however, it does help quite a bit.

the trick to killing the noise is to start at the source of the noise and work your way out. for example like you said building a box for it.
mounting them on rubber bushings, or hanging them with rubber bungies helps.

they also make mufflers, fan speed controllers, etc.

just any little thing you do adds up.

youll never kill the noise completely though.
 
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TribalSeeds

Get a bigger fan and reduce the speed.
Make your lines straight without sagging.
Insulate the duct
 

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Lammen Gorthaur
Veteran
I added the insulated duct today. It did a great job in knocking down the noise. I still have to build a noise box to kill the rest of it.
 

Tonygreen

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I was researching last night on here and I dug up a thread where a guy ran 8 inch insulated ducting inside 10 inch. I am going to try that route probably. I also got a whisperline fan, I hope that helps... I'm in the same boat man. Double insulated ducting like that seems like a good choice but I never tried, we'll see soon!
 
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gloryoskie

I did one like this, very good silencer, can't find the original post:

Got it all hooked up. Definitely attenuates the sound by about 50% or more. The rushing air noise of the exhaust is completely eliminated. I applied some stick-on insulation to the external length of duct, which further reduced noise. 100% worth the trouble of building.

There's still some noise coming from the fan and duct, but it's much less than what it was. Before, it was barely tolerable, almost as loud as an air conditioner. Now, it's a fairly gentle noise, which is completely canceled out if another device is running (TV, fan, etc). I'm still going to run the main ventilation fan 12/12 with the light, as realistically at night when everything's quiet I can still hear it pretty well, and don't like that kind of racket when I'm trying to sleep.

FYI, my muffler is 4" internal, 6" OD, and 36" long. Filled with poly, as it exhausts into the house.

You will need to buy:

1x 6" hard duct
1x 4" to 6" reducer
2x 4" starter collar
4' by 4' (or 4' by 6') Machine Cloth (Mesh)
Polyfill batting (like in pillows or stuffed animals) and Sub woofer boxes.
Steel Tape

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One Love 731

Senior Member
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Pull the inside of your insulated duct back exposing the insulation for a few feet. Works the same as a silencer. 1:ying:
 
also try replacing ducting with pvc pipe where ever possible...the smooth interior results in less air turbulence (which is a big source of noise) as compared to the ducting with the "rings" on the interior and sags and bends through out
 
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gloryoskie

Be careful if using in conjunction with lights. Take a bit of that poly and put a flame to it......


Always safety first! Keep flammables away from heat sources! Never assume its okay because someone else got away with it!

A smoke detector is a good thing, also a fire putter outter thingie.
 

One Love 731

Senior Member
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This method (post #8) is for exhaust, it cuts down the exterior noise quite a bit. do what works for you and your situation. 1:ying:
 

Harry Gypsna

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It is worth noting that insulated ducting, and acoustic ducting are not the same thing, one is made to provide thermal insulation, and the other is made to reduce noise. Thermally insulated ducting will reduce noise somewhat, but not as much as the proper acoustic ducting.
Thermally insulated ducting is normal ducting, with a layer of insulation, and an outer sleeve. Acoustically insulated ducting is normal ducting with perforations in it, a clear vapour barrier, insulation and the outer sleeve.
Sono-dec is a popular brand of acoustic ducting in Europe.
 

sal opette

Member
ICMag Donor
4" acoustic ducting is really noisy! I recommend using 6" ducting with 6"-4" reducer for connecting fan & filter.

Or 5" solid plastic or steel rigid ducting (again with 6"-4" reducers for fan & filter
If you go for rigid ducting it can get expensive especially if you by from a grow shop, specalist suppliers on the local or Internet are the way to go.

Oh yeah if you can turn down your fan then noise from airflow will drop but you may get humming from the fan...

Lot of pieces to this puzzle.
 

Jnugg

Active member
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Insulated ducting does cut down on the noise of air wooshing around in the ducting,use oversized insulated ducting to cut down on that noise even more as well as moving the air more efficiently with less pressure losses.Also build an insulated fan box to cut down on noise from the fan motor and use a duct muffler at the end of your duct run to cut down on noise of the air dumping out of the ducting.
 

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