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Imported (Moroccan, Afghani, Nepalase) Hash photo's and discussion....
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Static is pure melt , pure Heads.
Just touching it will melt in your hands, that is clearly not static.
That's not even pure melt , let alone static sift.
Also static sift does not get sold for 11€ at a Coffeshop ( if it did it means they buy it less than 50% price, so meaning they sold static sift for like 4€ a kilo) never.
Not saying it's not great but like I said, static sift word gets thrown around real freely these days
A lil spanish
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NotYourSaviour
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Back again from some days off. Some might guess in which country we stayed .
First resin this time is – I am cursed, obviously– again from my most favourite section. You know what? They didn't let me down again since their frozen version of one of the most used strains for producing sifts in the Rif in recent years apart from those I mentioned in my second last post in this thread was acquired then.
Thought the man behind the counter was joking when predicting it will be strong, but indeed it almost turned me into an ice sculpture.
Very strong for this technique indeed, which renews questions in regards to trust and black market.
Coffeeshop price considered and equally strong enough kush taste it was the best price performance ratio this trip and that's why the best overall product this stay!
Second one is supposedly from California, Usa again. Forgot what the description said, but probably static technique used, although while kushy taste was there it wasn't at all more intense than the above, in fact struggeled a bit in comparison.
Effects on the other hand were longer lasting and a tad more intense, let alone obvioulsy better processed than the above, but definitely not worth double the price or the first one shown was cut in regards to taste and effect, haha.
Sorta least favourite product from this hand section. Still of course would be welcome at home also known as 'drought where it rains rarely'.
One piece with foreign genetics supposedly grown in Morocco is also worth mentioning[no pictures].
Only 50¢ more expensive than the first one shown above
and another high grade resin. Solid performance in all regards so gets my seal of approval, what ever that means once again. Name refered not to Hassan but someone else, lol.
Not sure again, but if I remember correctly from that colour section, which in fact was too often hit or miss to me. Not this time obviously.
Interestingly another sift was tested as well which was the cheapest this trip and while high grade product it lacked something.
Section having produced it, also grows a lot of automatics in the mountains according to coffeeshop selling it, we were told after consumption by people
in the know whom sat down for a break and quick chat discussing the newest products on the market as usual, which I appreciate every time and a resaon for my loyality among their offered quality and thus pre-selection.
Confirms, despite all definite progress which happened inbetween all those years, my prejudices towards automatics since I had one of the best statics I ever had from this section before as well, but damn sure others grow them as well as said before. Tragic but who am I again?
@Sandsmp81
Interesting you heard of those plasma static machines in Morocco 4 months ago. Had this and your other post in mind and asked around this stay.
Firstly, it was confirmed that there are a few having these machines now and secondly, no information about those claims you mentioned about quality.
My personal guess is: experience producing hashish or not, but they need to get the hang of those machines so might take a while – I am personally happy to give all tries a go!
Though as ususal and you mentioned this before in other posts: it is business and there are probably jealous competitors lieing about others as with sadly probably any business on earth as well as human beings in general too involved, if profit driven[catch question: can a business be non-profit-driven in this current world?] when we picked up the winner above.
[General preachment interlude]Doesn't matter by the way, didn't took offence, you too again using this racist term some people use in the media for the section having produced the best find this trip above[ I was told either the guys working with them being in the know about new techniques are either from Italy or Spain, isn't that even international crime according to media then or what, lol?] , but everytime someone does,
I have to repeat myself again as it needs to set straight. Since I said my part about such spurious arguments before I just throw in some buzzwords about this topic[roughly: 'We do the same trade, but they are bad people and us are good people.'] in general:
- 'ruthlessness/crime isn't about nationality but profit'
- 'pointing fingers while having double standards'
- 'hewing and stabbing everywhere, let alone paranoia in this trade'
-' romanticing of plain business in an illegal rough context'
- 'blood is thicker than water and there is rarely something beyond business relationship, absolutely'
- 'in the past everything was better, but in fact there only was a bigger balance of power between producer and buyer'
And not to forget 'everyone no matter at which position of the food chain involved from producer to buyer has to take resposibility for the whole trade/production, which is basic sociology, there is no backdoor to escape'.
On demand I can go a bit into detail, but I spare you guys this
. I am egoistically only about the quality people bring to the table and am well aware about the whole picture. Only solution would be either to stop consuming or to go autarchically again, which is fully homegrown, but this isn't possible yet. Definitely not nice but the way it is.
Needless to say I don't worship respectively admire any of these sections or (other) people involved, let alone the marketing either from them or unlabelled products, since it is obviously intpransparent and in the end only,duh, about money so I can only handle this with a bit of humour whilst in fact it is cruel and sad.[End]
These frozen sifts from the section I haven't heard of at all yet look inviting, enjoy! Will as ususal try to find them on trips, thanks. By the way, I see stickers and stamps. Fancy indeed and these will make them theft-proof I am damn sure! Since you mentioned the price I can say we were told the first one[frozen] found and shown here is still a tad cheaper than yours on wholesale, which is again saying something.
The section you bought the 45u from I didn't hear of, too, cheers! I can imagine your tolerance went through the roof, but again being the bearer of bad news too often[for the cause as ususa!], I can only point out that you just cannot escape from tolerance except for taking a break[ tried almost everything and know no one having ever escaped]. Though I remember you mentioned you use it somewhat medically.
Very interesting you vape your resin.
I only heard of your device but in our circle there are people using a Mighty and Volcano. I tried both on several occassions even with vape wool and resin, but was never satisfied apart from a geniuine clean taste experience, but again taste alone doesn't get me as fucked up as when I combust, only recreational use in my case I don't necessarily need to function.
Though I again know mates saying/swearing they get used to it and then nonetheless get blasted when they combust again.
Again, no competition here and each to their own.
I too know that via combustion one inhales smoke byproducts adding to the high[lack of oxygen and a bit more of its counterparts it is sorta], while on the other hand some cannabinoids can't be extracted by a vape. I see as mentioned before myself becoming a dab head one day but the technology is, despite a lovely ritual, not handy at all for
an active person as myself – yet[also used this overhyped american vape for extracts but whilst comfortable the device isn't built to last in my humble opinon.
Back to square one, folks!]!
Eating is a passion as well but one's liver is destroying some cannabinoids and while I enjoy the high nonetheless, I wait for affordable ways for consumers to process this plant for sublingual absorbtion via such approaches one can read about here .
So eating and said progress will be most probably the future as well to me, though I'd miss the ritual of smoking, but then again one can't have it all, what?
Maybe there are future ways to preserve terpenes and all that even via food. That would be a game changer.
Regarding cutting in Afghanistan/Pakistan: your record[ I know everything you and all other people ever done of course so beware what you share. Proof? Here we go: I know you went stoned to bed just yesterday, it is all filed!]says you indeed just mentioned it here
but without a video,
though somehow I vaguely remember you linked it somewhere nonetheless since I know this disgusting proof of human greed[ wait, no , it is just another 'zero waste philosophy
' to save the earth of a total environmental collapse]already.
Cheers for making the effort and hopefully some people bury their interest of consuming this crap. I met so many and still know some around here being eager to consume this as they started with such dirt in their youth, sadly.
It is also still around on some coffeeshop menus.
I always said before that this is to me the Afghani/Pakistani version of Moroccan soap bar[some even are greedy to consume this, yuk], no way, not even for free. Though we are all human beings, aren't we ?
This is simply a time machine and again those who don't want to listen, have to learn it the hard way, innit? Too this is freedom I think.
Not to forget: 'It is so damn soft, lad, amazing!'.
Needless to say I don't want to spoil anyone's precious memories as for sure they had a great time back then, but this material for consumption just no one deserves since it is just wrong quality.
Thanks again!
@A lil spanish
Welcome back to the show! Funny as I thought about you the other day.
I think we discussed the possibiltiy of static Moroccan landrace before and I definitely wished for such a long time ago on here,
since I also indulged on some filtered Moroccan landrace batches, which were good but I strangely prefered the original very good quality I could obtain for a long time.
Got told a static version of tradtional Moroccan landrace isn't popular among such producers and one of the reasons is there is no demand at all, sadly.
Your handmade static is looking good! May I ask which technique you use? Gloves? Rolls? What? Curious about that, but of course you don't need to go into detail.
@Haze*ekiel420
Thanks for your opinion about the two pieces I reviewed the other day. Very interesting to read another opinion, I appreciate this pretty much!
Keep it coming!
As I wrote in my review too, not sure as ususal on a shitty black market it is really static[isn't this certainty wonderful in this lovely scene? It just feels so safe, we should consider ourselves lucky and respect the people throwing such greatness at us to the max! ],
but too mentioned I think many producers most probably there not invest much time in their static cleaning of sifts and damn sure they don't go for the infamous often mentioned too by myself '99% heads' for many reasons.
In theory though they could call their product static even when only cleaned for 5 minutes. Maybe we should introduce a special terminology of let's say '70% heads', '75% heads' and so on. Or is it just black and white and that's why '99%heads or not'.
Not saying '99%' is a myth or shit, but for mass production yet not working for several reasons and one prominent one, is that there may be a demand but as usual most people don't wanna pay the work as simple as that.
They too often want hashish for 2€ in retail at best.
Real lovers go for such '99%', but only privatley most probably. I tried many statics in the last years from all countries supplying the Netherlands, but my microscope hasn't seen '99%' yet. I hope this will change at one point until it really is available and I am an advocat for honest labelling and definitions as well, but will take a while sadly.
Suggestion by the way: please don't fall for the clever marketing of this chain having produced these two pieces and use the name of this very coffeeshop 'insert name'[damn, I just mentioned it!] since despite they changed a lot in this scene for good too, they just don't deserve this defining name for many reasons.
On the other hand, if we would use their more common name[they are supplying/owning quite a number of coffeeshops around Netherlands currently as well as their 'seed company']we are trapped into their marketing as well.
As said, clever.
Though, only again in my humble opinon, their intransparency calls for such not naming but in the end is a drop in the ocean as , no offence again, many just don't reflect it. Still it is complicated and I see that, just saying. Big story.
Prices: not saying they invented static technique but pushed it to some degree for coffeeshops and were one or the first bringing this quality to coffeeshops, or course their own.
Respect where respect is due though despite all critizm!
Been there when it was released about 4 years ago[along with a few videos on YouTube showing the process back then in Morocco but they seem to have deleted them now] for a high price back then, but compared to now it even was an ok price[though the quality of today's producers, if one knows the right spots, is certainly better].
The one you and also I mentioned in my post about from about two years ago was even cheaper compared to their initial batch[supposedly different strains involved though]but slightly less in quality.
As said in my recent posts, when tried this, it was quite good and
is a no brainer compared to some other producers charging double the price[which again is saying something], period.
I reckon[again: in theory!], since among other reasons coffeeshops are an oligopoly, if this chain[and/or others] wants to change/drop the prices they just could wouldn't there be price riggings so common in oligopolistic markets, innit?
Lotsa producers just fool consumers, but this won't last forever!
Thus I party hard when seeing technology coming up, such mentioned machines in my previous posts, doing the work and at one point hopefully supplying highest quality for the masses[ I know they are currently not cheap,but in theory will go amortised after some runs, let alone the machines themselves will get cheaper, and prices drop. At least in my wishes and in theory again, basic economy but let me be a dreamer please, yes?].
No hashish is worth more than 5-10€ in my humble opinon[don't get me started on even more riddiculous grass prices] and the rest is just rip off, but again this is a long story others and me explained before.
Another reason for producing one's own quality hashish and for legalisation in general, again roughly speaking.
First resin this time is – I am cursed, obviously– again from my most favourite section. You know what? They didn't let me down again since their frozen version of one of the most used strains for producing sifts in the Rif in recent years apart from those I mentioned in my second last post in this thread was acquired then.
Thought the man behind the counter was joking when predicting it will be strong, but indeed it almost turned me into an ice sculpture.
Very strong for this technique indeed, which renews questions in regards to trust and black market.
Coffeeshop price considered and equally strong enough kush taste it was the best price performance ratio this trip and that's why the best overall product this stay!
Second one is supposedly from California, Usa again. Forgot what the description said, but probably static technique used, although while kushy taste was there it wasn't at all more intense than the above, in fact struggeled a bit in comparison.
Effects on the other hand were longer lasting and a tad more intense, let alone obvioulsy better processed than the above, but definitely not worth double the price or the first one shown was cut in regards to taste and effect, haha.
Sorta least favourite product from this hand section. Still of course would be welcome at home also known as 'drought where it rains rarely'.
One piece with foreign genetics supposedly grown in Morocco is also worth mentioning[no pictures].
Only 50¢ more expensive than the first one shown above
and another high grade resin. Solid performance in all regards so gets my seal of approval, what ever that means once again. Name refered not to Hassan but someone else, lol.
Not sure again, but if I remember correctly from that colour section, which in fact was too often hit or miss to me. Not this time obviously.
Interestingly another sift was tested as well which was the cheapest this trip and while high grade product it lacked something.
Section having produced it, also grows a lot of automatics in the mountains according to coffeeshop selling it, we were told after consumption by people
in the know whom sat down for a break and quick chat discussing the newest products on the market as usual, which I appreciate every time and a resaon for my loyality among their offered quality and thus pre-selection.
Confirms, despite all definite progress which happened inbetween all those years, my prejudices towards automatics since I had one of the best statics I ever had from this section before as well, but damn sure others grow them as well as said before. Tragic but who am I again?
@Sandsmp81
Interesting you heard of those plasma static machines in Morocco 4 months ago. Had this and your other post in mind and asked around this stay.
Firstly, it was confirmed that there are a few having these machines now and secondly, no information about those claims you mentioned about quality.
My personal guess is: experience producing hashish or not, but they need to get the hang of those machines so might take a while – I am personally happy to give all tries a go!
Though as ususal and you mentioned this before in other posts: it is business and there are probably jealous competitors lieing about others as with sadly probably any business on earth as well as human beings in general too involved, if profit driven[catch question: can a business be non-profit-driven in this current world?] when we picked up the winner above.
[General preachment interlude]Doesn't matter by the way, didn't took offence, you too again using this racist term some people use in the media for the section having produced the best find this trip above[ I was told either the guys working with them being in the know about new techniques are either from Italy or Spain, isn't that even international crime according to media then or what, lol?] , but everytime someone does,
I have to repeat myself again as it needs to set straight. Since I said my part about such spurious arguments before I just throw in some buzzwords about this topic[roughly: 'We do the same trade, but they are bad people and us are good people.'] in general:
- 'ruthlessness/crime isn't about nationality but profit'
- 'pointing fingers while having double standards'
- 'hewing and stabbing everywhere, let alone paranoia in this trade'
-' romanticing of plain business in an illegal rough context'
- 'blood is thicker than water and there is rarely something beyond business relationship, absolutely'
- 'in the past everything was better, but in fact there only was a bigger balance of power between producer and buyer'
And not to forget 'everyone no matter at which position of the food chain involved from producer to buyer has to take resposibility for the whole trade/production, which is basic sociology, there is no backdoor to escape'.
On demand I can go a bit into detail, but I spare you guys this
. I am egoistically only about the quality people bring to the table and am well aware about the whole picture. Only solution would be either to stop consuming or to go autarchically again, which is fully homegrown, but this isn't possible yet. Definitely not nice but the way it is.Needless to say I don't worship respectively admire any of these sections or (other) people involved, let alone the marketing either from them or unlabelled products, since it is obviously intpransparent and in the end only,duh, about money so I can only handle this with a bit of humour whilst in fact it is cruel and sad.[End]
These frozen sifts from the section I haven't heard of at all yet look inviting, enjoy! Will as ususal try to find them on trips, thanks. By the way, I see stickers and stamps. Fancy indeed and these will make them theft-proof I am damn sure! Since you mentioned the price I can say we were told the first one[frozen] found and shown here is still a tad cheaper than yours on wholesale, which is again saying something.
The section you bought the 45u from I didn't hear of, too, cheers! I can imagine your tolerance went through the roof, but again being the bearer of bad news too often[for the cause as ususa!], I can only point out that you just cannot escape from tolerance except for taking a break[ tried almost everything and know no one having ever escaped]. Though I remember you mentioned you use it somewhat medically.
Very interesting you vape your resin.
I only heard of your device but in our circle there are people using a Mighty and Volcano. I tried both on several occassions even with vape wool and resin, but was never satisfied apart from a geniuine clean taste experience, but again taste alone doesn't get me as fucked up as when I combust, only recreational use in my case I don't necessarily need to function.
Though I again know mates saying/swearing they get used to it and then nonetheless get blasted when they combust again.
Again, no competition here and each to their own.
I too know that via combustion one inhales smoke byproducts adding to the high[lack of oxygen and a bit more of its counterparts it is sorta], while on the other hand some cannabinoids can't be extracted by a vape. I see as mentioned before myself becoming a dab head one day but the technology is, despite a lovely ritual, not handy at all for
an active person as myself – yet[also used this overhyped american vape for extracts but whilst comfortable the device isn't built to last in my humble opinon.
Back to square one, folks!]!
Eating is a passion as well but one's liver is destroying some cannabinoids and while I enjoy the high nonetheless, I wait for affordable ways for consumers to process this plant for sublingual absorbtion via such approaches one can read about here .
So eating and said progress will be most probably the future as well to me, though I'd miss the ritual of smoking, but then again one can't have it all, what?
Maybe there are future ways to preserve terpenes and all that even via food. That would be a game changer.
Regarding cutting in Afghanistan/Pakistan: your record[ I know everything you and all other people ever done of course so beware what you share. Proof? Here we go: I know you went stoned to bed just yesterday, it is all filed!]says you indeed just mentioned it here
but without a video,
though somehow I vaguely remember you linked it somewhere nonetheless since I know this disgusting proof of human greed[ wait, no , it is just another 'zero waste philosophy
' to save the earth of a total environmental collapse]already.Cheers for making the effort and hopefully some people bury their interest of consuming this crap. I met so many and still know some around here being eager to consume this as they started with such dirt in their youth, sadly.
It is also still around on some coffeeshop menus.
I always said before that this is to me the Afghani/Pakistani version of Moroccan soap bar[some even are greedy to consume this, yuk], no way, not even for free. Though we are all human beings, aren't we ?
This is simply a time machine and again those who don't want to listen, have to learn it the hard way, innit? Too this is freedom I think.
Not to forget: 'It is so damn soft, lad, amazing!'.
Needless to say I don't want to spoil anyone's precious memories as for sure they had a great time back then, but this material for consumption just no one deserves since it is just wrong quality.
Thanks again!
@A lil spanish
Welcome back to the show! Funny as I thought about you the other day.
I think we discussed the possibiltiy of static Moroccan landrace before and I definitely wished for such a long time ago on here,
since I also indulged on some filtered Moroccan landrace batches, which were good but I strangely prefered the original very good quality I could obtain for a long time.
Got told a static version of tradtional Moroccan landrace isn't popular among such producers and one of the reasons is there is no demand at all, sadly.
Your handmade static is looking good! May I ask which technique you use? Gloves? Rolls? What? Curious about that, but of course you don't need to go into detail.
@Haze*ekiel420
Thanks for your opinion about the two pieces I reviewed the other day. Very interesting to read another opinion, I appreciate this pretty much!
Keep it coming!
As I wrote in my review too, not sure as ususal on a shitty black market it is really static[isn't this certainty wonderful in this lovely scene? It just feels so safe, we should consider ourselves lucky and respect the people throwing such greatness at us to the max! ],
but too mentioned I think many producers most probably there not invest much time in their static cleaning of sifts and damn sure they don't go for the infamous often mentioned too by myself '99% heads' for many reasons.
In theory though they could call their product static even when only cleaned for 5 minutes. Maybe we should introduce a special terminology of let's say '70% heads', '75% heads' and so on. Or is it just black and white and that's why '99%heads or not'.
Not saying '99%' is a myth or shit, but for mass production yet not working for several reasons and one prominent one, is that there may be a demand but as usual most people don't wanna pay the work as simple as that.
They too often want hashish for 2€ in retail at best.
Real lovers go for such '99%', but only privatley most probably. I tried many statics in the last years from all countries supplying the Netherlands, but my microscope hasn't seen '99%' yet. I hope this will change at one point until it really is available and I am an advocat for honest labelling and definitions as well, but will take a while sadly.
Suggestion by the way: please don't fall for the clever marketing of this chain having produced these two pieces and use the name of this very coffeeshop 'insert name'[damn, I just mentioned it!] since despite they changed a lot in this scene for good too, they just don't deserve this defining name for many reasons.
On the other hand, if we would use their more common name[they are supplying/owning quite a number of coffeeshops around Netherlands currently as well as their 'seed company']we are trapped into their marketing as well.
As said, clever.
Though, only again in my humble opinon, their intransparency calls for such not naming but in the end is a drop in the ocean as , no offence again, many just don't reflect it. Still it is complicated and I see that, just saying. Big story.
Prices: not saying they invented static technique but pushed it to some degree for coffeeshops and were one or the first bringing this quality to coffeeshops, or course their own.
Respect where respect is due though despite all critizm!
Been there when it was released about 4 years ago[along with a few videos on YouTube showing the process back then in Morocco but they seem to have deleted them now] for a high price back then, but compared to now it even was an ok price[though the quality of today's producers, if one knows the right spots, is certainly better].
The one you and also I mentioned in my post about from about two years ago was even cheaper compared to their initial batch[supposedly different strains involved though]but slightly less in quality.
As said in my recent posts, when tried this, it was quite good and
is a no brainer compared to some other producers charging double the price[which again is saying something], period.
I reckon[again: in theory!], since among other reasons coffeeshops are an oligopoly, if this chain[and/or others] wants to change/drop the prices they just could wouldn't there be price riggings so common in oligopolistic markets, innit?
Lotsa producers just fool consumers, but this won't last forever!
Thus I party hard when seeing technology coming up, such mentioned machines in my previous posts, doing the work and at one point hopefully supplying highest quality for the masses[ I know they are currently not cheap,but in theory will go amortised after some runs, let alone the machines themselves will get cheaper, and prices drop. At least in my wishes and in theory again, basic economy but let me be a dreamer please, yes?].
No hashish is worth more than 5-10€ in my humble opinon[don't get me started on even more riddiculous grass prices] and the rest is just rip off, but again this is a long story others and me explained before.
Another reason for producing one's own quality hashish and for legalisation in general, again roughly speaking.
