I'm trying to build my own cabinet. Need advice please

[Saabotage]

OK I am trying to build my own cabinet because about the only cabinet I can find is about 1800 dollars. this is my list of stuff and where it can be found.

1. spray bottle: 00.00
2. pruning scissors: 17.37 http://www.fiskars.com/US/Garden/Product+Detail?contentId=85486

3. hydroponic system 188 .18 http://www.sunlightsheds.com/hydro_systems.htm

4.*1*MH/HPS 400 watt light: 454.80 http://www.hydroempire.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/3_21/products_id/623

5. Cabinet: 230.93 http://www.globalindustrial.com/gcs/product/productInfo.web?&infoParam.altNumKey=894125BK

6. Ph/TDS meter: 76.38 http://www.sunlightsheds.com/instruments.htm

7. timers(3): 50.37 http://www.sunlightsheds.com/instruments.htm

8. Bloom Neutrients: 33.39 http://www.sunlightsheds.com/inorganic_nutes.htm

9. Micro Neutrients: 27.95 http://www.hydroempire.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/794

10 Cooling fans: 254.05
http://www.sunlightsheds.com/

11.Mylar: 17.95
http://www.discount-ydro.com/mylar....ttp://www.sunlightsheds.com/air_purifiers.htm

13.Rock Wool cubes: 15.09 http://www.sunlightsheds.com/growing_media.htm

14.Hydroton: 14.95 http://www.hydroempire.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/7/products_id/245

15.Rooting hormone: 28.09 http://www.sunlightsheds.com/cloninggel.htm
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1477.89

I would like to get up and running for even less then this. Can anybody direct me to a cabinet that is secure and quiet for about $800 US or less?

The thing is that 1477 is alittle to rich for my blood, and the other buying it a peice at a time it's going to take longer then I want it too on the timetable if made for myself!

So My question to you is starting from what ive got right here what could I drop or change to end up with the biggest cabinet possible for the lowest price?
................... I'm going to bump it often

Thanks

 

[Guest]

get a homebox there only 300$

http://www.the-homebox.net/en/home_en.htm

 

[Saabotage]

Thats a very cool box that ive never seen before!

.......However it is more expensive then the original cabinet in my list...

This is what i'm trying to build.
http://www.4eversun.com/mini_cool_cab.htm

 

[Saabotage]

/bump

 

[Latitude18]

plywood , 2x2's glue and screw ,,, thats the way i'd go ,,, if you hav the tools . But even if you don't you could prob'ly buy a saw and hammer and screwgun and still make it for less , if your not good with tools just use a jigsaw , it don't cut the straightest but will work the best with the least chance of injury

5 sheets of ply 1/4 - 3/8
8 2x2's
1 1/4 " "zip" screws
and some construction glue

just glue and screw , easy as pie

 

[Saabotage]

I shouldn't have said Cabinet..... I should have said the entire grow cabinet.............


The Actual cabinet is not so much a problem. It's the money to get ALL the stuff on the list above!

So an update to the question is:
What could I do to get the system I'm looking for. FOR LESS THEN WHATS LISTED ABOVE!

What im asking is the entire list not just the cabinet. BLAST 420 thanks for the web site on the home box!

As for anybody else with helpful advice please note. While I do want to build a Cabinet.

But I live in a 1 bed room effieciency apartment. So I cannot nail or cut anything.

Well I can but not much......... Not enough to use wood working skills...

thanks again!

 

[treble]

heya Sabotage

you seem to have a little of what I would call fruit..... stuff thats a bit over top or pricey. And some of that stuff you can put off buying until the plants are ready...like pruning scissors.

i would also question the price of your 400 watt lamp. That seems about 2x what you should pay.

I would do this:
Decide what I am going to grow in? soil or water
Decide how big the pots need to be? 2.5 gal or 4gal etc.

This can tell you how big your cabinet needs to be, by measuring the size of the pots you are using.

your next trick is to scrounge what you can for as cheap as you can. If you want to buy a grow box check out 2nd hand furniture or charity shops for the furniture/grow box.

good luck.
Treb

 

[Vern Equinox]

Saab,

There's one hell of a lot of fluff in there, IMAO. Also, I don't think your link to the cab can be right; only $153 and it's only 42 inches tall?

I'm going to shamelessly copy/repost a reply of mine from another thread. The wording may be sharp, but keep in mind this was meant for someone who had a hell of a lot less planning than you've obviously put into it, but the principles apply somewhat universally. I hope it helps. (I have @ $800 US in my C24, or maybe less.)

**********, my suggestion to you is STOP!

I know you're excited to get started, but you're making a mistake. Buying a whole bunch of stuff before you have a concrete plan of action in place is a bad idea, and the best way to waste the cash that you're tight on by making bad decisions. Buying that 400 is going to cost you at least twice as much in ventilation (upfront) than if you needed to cool a 250 or 150, and if you're scrogging, you don't need the penetration of the 400. So, if your scrogging, you can save money on less expensive lights, fans, and electric bills. I've found it's good saving money, especially when it's tight!


Things you should know/do prior to buying A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G for your grow op.

1.) The X-Files rules apply; TRUST NO ONE. Nobody, nada, zip. If you tell only one or two people, and they tell only one or two people, etc.,etc. pretty freaking soon the wrong person will hear it (like an ex-girlfriend who believes you wronged her, or a friend who feels they're deserving of free weed from your grow) and drop a quarter on your ass...trust me, it happens. And when it does, the grow may be only 2-3 plants, but LEO will hear of much exaggerated numbers, human nature being what it is. Do your bragging here!

2.) Figure out how much weed you realistically want to get per run, and no; as much as possible is not a narrowed-down enough answer. If growing for your head (and maybe the heads of a couple of friends), figure out how much you go through in a 3-4 month period, and shoot for at least that. Then, you'll be supplied until your next grow harvests/cures.

3.) Figure out what growing technique is going to fit your needs and allotted space. I can tell you for cab grows, a SCROG of some sort is generally what people use. Depending on cab dimensions, two 150 watt lights would probably do the trick.

4.) Don't risk prison for bagseed. And don't cheap out on genetics. The best money you'll invest, besides in your carbon scrubber, is in your seeds. Pick a strain that'll work best in your grow, not just one that sounds tasty. If scrogging, you want a branchier strain; if going SoG, you'll want something that stays more-or-less in one cola. Some strains are better for beginners, as they can take the abuse heaped on it from a novice moreso than other "pickier" strains. How smelly the strain gets is key as well;you don't want stanky-stanky weed until you're sure your carbon scrubber is setup and working as designed. Nothing worse than pulling down stinky ass healthy plants because you can't handle the odor control and it's smelling up the entire house/yard. LEO gets a whiff, and it's probable cause. My suggestion would be C99. Easy strain to grow, great head buzz (almost trippy), and almost no odor!

5.) Get lights to fit your needs; bigger isn't always better. Again, higher wattages, more cash upfront, more cash to run, more cash to cool, etc. Look at what a couple of Czechs are doing with single 150w lights. G_MAN and prenda are averaging between 138-143g per run on their super-simple setup. In a cab @ the size of the C13 (2ft x 2ft x 6.5), you could double-up a couple of 150s (like in my avatar) and make a single chickenwire tube with a flowering screen area of @ 30 square feet. Fill out even 2/3 of that, and you'll be a happy camper!

6.) Get your scrubber built and tested first. About the only thing that'll get you arrested faster than a scorned girlfriend is the stank from your grow getting noticed. Do it, before it does you.


That's all for now, but I'll come up with more later, I'm sure. Read this a couple times, and see if it doesn't start to make some sense. GL

 

[Vern Equinox]

Save a bunch right here!

Save a bunch right here!

You can setup a Bio-Tub from Walmart for @ $35-$40 that would support two plants, have low, low maintenance (no reservoir changes, ever), and would fill conventional horizontal scrogs in just about any cabinet, easily. Also tubs instead of buckets, so you save 5-7 inches of valuable vertical space in small cabs. Use RO water and Lucas Formula (GH), and throw away your PH meter! Get a $5 PH test kit, just to spot check (so you can sleep at night) but trust me, PH is stable as a mofo in this setup!

Parts list: 8-10 Gal tub, two netpots (may need to get elsewhere), bag of red lava rocks, $18 Aquarium Powerhead (pet sect), cable ties (to affix netpots to the lids), and @6 feet of air hose tubing (to put into powerhead and aerate the water;get black irrigation hose for lightproofing...cheap!).

KEEP IN MIND: The more you can DIY and get locally, the more money you save and you get less possible "exposure" to your grow. You don't want to save money by having 5-10 different purchases from various online hydro stores, even if you have a safe address to ship to.IMAO.

 

[Saabotage]

Saab,

There's one hell of a lot of fluff in there, IMAO. Also, I don't think your link to the cab can be right; only $153 and it's only 42 inches tall?

I'm going to shamelessly copy/repost a reply of mine from another thread. The wording may be sharp, but keep in mind this was meant for someone who had a hell of a lot less planning than you've obviously put into it, but the principles apply somewhat universally. I hope it helps. (I have @ $800 US in my C24, or maybe less.)

**********, my suggestion to you is STOP!

I know you're excited to get started, but you're making a mistake. Buying a whole bunch of stuff before you have a concrete plan of action in place is a bad idea, and the best way to waste the cash that you're tight on by making bad decisions. Buying that 400 is going to cost you at least twice as much in ventilation (upfront) than if you needed to cool a 250 or 150, and if you're scrogging, you don't need the penetration of the 400. So, if your scrogging, you can save money on less expensive lights, fans, and electric bills. I've found it's good saving money, especially when it's tight!


Things you should know/do prior to buying A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G for your grow op.

1.) The X-Files rules apply; TRUST NO ONE. Nobody, nada, zip. If you tell only one or two people, and they tell only one or two people, etc.,etc. pretty freaking soon the wrong person will hear it (like an ex-girlfriend who believes you wronged her, or a friend who feels they're deserving of free weed from your grow) and drop a quarter on your ass...trust me, it happens. And when it does, the grow may be only 2-3 plants, but LEO will hear of much exaggerated numbers, human nature being what it is. Do your bragging here!

2.) Figure out how much weed you realistically want to get per run, and no; as much as possible is not a narrowed-down enough answer. If growing for your head (and maybe the heads of a couple of friends), figure out how much you go through in a 3-4 month period, and shoot for at least that. Then, you'll be supplied until your next grow harvests/cures.

3.) Figure out what growing technique is going to fit your needs and allotted space. I can tell you for cab grows, a SCROG of some sort is generally what people use. Depending on cab dimensions, two 150 watt lights would probably do the trick.

4.) Don't risk prison for bagseed. And don't cheap out on genetics. The best money you'll invest, besides in your carbon scrubber, is in your seeds. Pick a strain that'll work best in your grow, not just one that sounds tasty. If scrogging, you want a branchier strain; if going SoG, you'll want something that stays more-or-less in one cola. Some strains are better for beginners, as they can take the abuse heaped on it from a novice moreso than other "pickier" strains. How smelly the strain gets is key as well;you don't want stanky-stanky weed until you're sure your carbon scrubber is setup and working as designed. Nothing worse than pulling down stinky ass healthy plants because you can't handle the odor control and it's smelling up the entire house/yard. LEO gets a whiff, and it's probable cause. My suggestion would be C99. Easy strain to grow, great head buzz (almost trippy), and almost no odor!

5.) Get lights to fit your needs; bigger isn't always better. Again, higher wattages, more cash upfront, more cash to run, more cash to cool, etc. Look at what a couple of Czechs are doing with single 150w lights. G_MAN and prenda are averaging between 138-143g per run on their super-simple setup. In a cab @ the size of the C13 (2ft x 2ft x 6.5), you could double-up a couple of 150s (like in my avatar) and make a single chickenwire tube with a flowering screen area of @ 30 square feet. Fill out even 2/3 of that, and you'll be a happy camper!

6.) Get your scrubber built and tested first. About the only thing that'll get you arrested faster than a scorned girlfriend is the stank from your grow getting noticed. Do it, before it does you.


That's all for now, but I'll come up with more later, I'm sure. Read this a couple times, and see if it doesn't start to make some sense. GL

Yeah, see I've grown 2 other times (very weak soil grows.). They were put together with a total of about 71 dollars and change. (Had sleeping bags over the doorway to the 3 foot square closet I was using)

I've always had meadiocre results. Because I've never had a secure system that was mostly effective.

I said I live in a 1 bed room apartment (currently).

My lease is about to be up and I'm finding a house to move into! (At least 2 bed room)

Hence, the rush to complete my to do list. It is also why I've already went and ordered me a few orders of some good seeds. (I first baught THSeeds Bubblegum because they said it was a Stabilzed pure breed strain.(Gave the SADPxSkunk#1 away) (and the reviews were good)). Also, with a pure breed strain I can feel competent in making seeds from them and have them turn out the same over and over again.

Then I ordered HashBerry (sorry Gypsy I only know one other person who can use the freebies and I felt compelled to keep these freebie Sadhu seeds)because they were pritty darn cheap(and looked good) and I wanted better genetics then the mexican hemp stuff thats sold around here.

I personally would be happy with about 6 Ounces a month in a perpetual garden.

The light is a different matter. I've gotten a friend to pony up the cash. Normally I would be hesitant to let anybody know what im doing but I only see this guy once every 2 or 3 years and he currently live about 900 miles away. (He grew before he left and im about 99.9% sure that's not only why he left here, but why he stays gone),(hes the one that got on to my ass for smoking the mexican swagg, said I should be ashamed of myself. gotta love friends!)


However You did bring up a few things I need to be making (Carbon filters).

Ohh, and I had not thought about charity organizations.........
Thanks. I give you the helpful person prize

So what is up with 150 watt lights. Are these compact floresence?


I've been making myself a parallel path........ Meaning I've been trying to build a Cabinet ( I kinda like metal and lockable). But I've also been Building 5 gallon bubble buckets with nothing better to do with my off work time currently.

OK, ok........ I'll look more indepth of at the small lights on the web site....... damned Ambitions!

Ohh, and if anybody could show me a link of buy your C13 or C25 cabinet here. clickies that has a shopping cart or something that would be helpful.

I went to home depot and Lowes and asked for a C13 Cabinet about 2 months ago and their eyes fogged over and they said "A what? All of our cabinets are in kitchen supplies :-/ and they looked kinda....... particle board and well burnable......

thanks again


............/yawn haven't slept today (can't you tell in the ramble above!)

 

[Stoney McToke]

hydro is expensive. you wanna cut costs, you said you had soil experience, I'd say go soil. plus if you use a good soil mix w/ dry ferts and wormcastings you only need a lil bit of ferts at the end. plus soil will be easier for your perpetual grow. that homebox looks like a good place to start. perfect for a 400w, you could get your goal with something like that.

 

[Saabotage]

hydro is expensive. you wanna cut costs, you said you had soil experience, I'd say go soil. plus if you use a good soil mix w/ dry ferts and wormcastings you only need a lil bit of ferts at the end. plus soil will be easier for your perpetual grow. that homebox looks like a good place to start. perfect for a 400w, you could get your goal with something like that.

Very true.

I just found soil growing to me messy. Figured liquids are easier mopped up.

Believe me I think about it every week..... Though like I said earlier I've already made a couple of 5 gallon bucket DWC. (just to give me something to do)

You know your selling me on the homebox more then the picture did!

I might just have to do both.......(ive been working on both, the buckets were my back up plan.) Though I do think I should slow my roll for a week or two.

No need to make a descicion in haste!

 

[D0nC0smic]

i noticed you have alot of stuff from hydro stores, alot of that stuff can be bought or made much more cheaply from places like home depot or walmart