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Just a little FYI you everyone, These girls are under 600 watt HPS with supplemental KIND LED. I have noticed where the LED's are hitting the girls they are showing much more trichs and looking much fuller. As a result I am now convinced LED is good.... I did a ton of research and have settled on the new BML Horticulture Spydr 1200x coming out in a few weeks. I already have it on order. I cant freakin wait to see how it works...