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Illinois Medical Freedom Bucket design room

MynameStitch

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Hey all, Stitch is in need of some assistance :D I am in the process of applying for a cultivation permit in illinois, I have finished most of the application already, but I wanted test some other ideas. I am using freedom buckets and I need help on ventilation how much. I am very used to running around 1,000 feet of space grows, but I have a building I found that has up to 40,000 sq feet of space. I just can't fathom having that many plants. I have each a separate room locked with biometric security doors. cloning/seedling room, veg and flowering.

I have 5ft sq feet of space per plant
I am thinking around 10,000 to 20,000 feet of space I will be using right now. with freedom buckets you need a shit ton of cooling with the massive amount of lights, I have all that taken care off. WHat I need is room ventilation and how much cfm's it would take for a room around 2,000 sq feet of space this is what my question is, I just don't know how much ventilation per sq feet of space is good. SO I have really raised the bar here. Illinois has strict requirements like no other state it's ridiculous. I also need carbon scrubber ideas, I used to make all mine, but with illinois I am sure they want the bought, I hate the fact I can't use ingenuity here with my grow I don't like that at all.

I have my business plan and I am going to be hiring vets or homeless vets for security and I will be donating money. I am in this for the fun of it and helping others, I take what I need to live and some for insurance. I have to have a massive scale setup, because illinois has 200,000 license fee if you get a licence. and 100,000 after first year to renew it and 7% sales take on all orders. 25,000 application fee non refundable.

So any incite on this would be fantastic and you would be helping me out like no other :)

If you guys got any other suggestions besides ventilation let me know please I am all ears :)
 

Mikell

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Can't off any advice, last large room I had close to a 1000sq feet, and was, as I have learned since, done entirely wrong XD Not crop failure wrong, the plants were great, just technically wrong.

I mostly replied to express the total shock at the fees they are charging to set up in Illinois. Is alcohol treated this way? :thinking: Unlikely.

:tiphat: for going mainstream
 

the gnome

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I have my business plan and I am going to be hiring vets or homeless vets for security and I will be donating money. I am in this for the fun of it and helping others, I take what I need to live and some for insurance. I have to have a massive scale setup, because illinois has 200,000 license fee if you get a licence. and 100,000 after first year to renew it and 7% sales take on all orders. 25,000 application fee non refundable.

:)

I'm running sealed/co2,
but have read that changing out the air 2X a minute is ideal if your not sealed/co2

can you tell me if the $200,000 fee is for a special commercial license for a certain sized grow
or is that it. if you want to legally grow you have to get that license??
even if it is a commercial license that's about as greedy as the govt can get.c
harging those types of fee's on top of the over head to get it off the ground and patients will be paying a high premium for meds
 

amannamedtruth

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I think you'd want to start off by knowing the cubic feet of the grow space for ventilation, but consider a sealed environment, and each room needs full air exchange every 5 minutes. Also, go for the Can-Lite or Phresh filters. Waaaay lighter than the normal filters, and they last just as long, they're just packed with super fine particles. : )

Holler if you get that permit and need a farmer, 312 local!
 
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the gnome

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I think you'd want to start off by knowing the cubic feet of the grow space for ventilation,
but consider a sealed environment, and each room needs full air exchange every 5 minutes.
Also, go for the Can-Lite or Phresh filters. Waaaay lighter than the normal filters, and they last just as long, they're just packed with super fine particles. : )

Holler if you get that permit and need a farmer, 312 local!

yes, cubic feet of the area is what you use for calculations

btw
are you saying a sealed room w/co2 needs exchange every 5 minutes?
 

mojave green

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might consider ozone lung room for odor control. disposal of that many carbon filters might be expensive and problematic.
 

MynameStitch

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I think you'd want to start off by knowing the cubic feet of the grow space for ventilation, but consider a sealed environment, and each room needs full air exchange every 5 minutes. Also, go for the Can-Lite or Phresh filters. Waaaay lighter than the normal filters, and they last just as long, they're just packed with super fine particles. : )

Holler if you get that permit and need a farmer, 312 local!

Oh hell ya dude I will defiantly let ya know, I got all my staffing plan and everything else done and I am going to be looking for some experienced growers :)

Ya there is ALOT of sheet metal work required.
 

nukklehead

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Ya illinois sucks

gonna be laying low in the land of lincoln... as above..

I dont trust the illinois bastards anymore then I do the feds...

go for it.. im behind you all the way... Just remember our plant
is still illegal on a federal level....

when we cross that bridge.. ( federal legality) then I am all in...

until that... you blaze the trail and good karma and vibes to you
brother......

One of the best ways to be imprisoned in the great state of illinois is to be governor.... Hate to see what they would do to a med
grower..

Peace out
 

MynameStitch

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yes, cubic feet of the area is what you use for calculations

btw
are you saying a sealed room w/co2 needs exchange every 5 minutes?

ok so how much cfm's per cubic feet you think?
My boyfriend has always done the grow room design and setup, but this was the only thing we were arguing over lol
 

amannamedtruth

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yes, cubic feet of the area is what you use for calculations

btw
are you saying a sealed room w/co2 needs exchange every 5 minutes?

Hey Gnome

Nope, I mean that every five minutes the air should be filtered fully. that'd just be wasteful.

Sooo....for example a room with 2000 feet sq and 8 foot ceilings, or 50 x 40 x 8 would be (16000 cft^3)/5 mins is 3200 cfm worth of fans filtering air in the lung room however one feels they want to do this, for each room that size. This will create a noticeable draft, but not a wind tunnel.

I'd think each area would maybe want their own lung room, just to limit the chances of spreading pathogen?

might consider ozone lung room for odor control. disposal of that many carbon filters might be expensive and problematic.

ozone only goes so far, and is toxic.
 
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MIMedHead

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For rooms around 2000sq ft you should use a fan in the 1500-2000cfm fan and a equally correlated carbon scrubber. I highly recommend Phresh filters or another high quality brand. I'm sure you know to match the scrubber with the fan appropriately. Scrubbers should have a slightly higher rated cfm then the fan hooked to.it.

That's a lot of fans/scrubber combos good luck stitch
 

mojave green

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ozone only goes so far, and is toxic.
no idea how far it goes. only used it once small scale. worked pretty good for me. very small scale compared to the plan here though, so i really can't speak to it's effectiveness large scale. the epa might have issues with it large scale as well. just thinkin out loud. big project fer sure. good luck to ya stitch.
:laughing:
 
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