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ICMAG getting crowded as the marijuana industry rapidly evolves

Lone Wolf

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So instead of adding more laws and rules, and removing beautiful features from the website that go hand in hand with keeping up with the extraordinarily rapidly evolving marijuana industry, why don't we positively collaborate together as a community and brainstorm some ideas to effectively keep this website better then the rest without moving backwards...

with that being said..

if there are too many people/posts, and not enough volunteer moderators, perhaps the content of the site could be moderated easier with the addition of more moderators, with limited abilities of course. I say this because if there are too many SPAM postings for the current staff to keep up with, it would make greater sense to not erase the features/forum topics/groups (in an attempt to stop profits/security from being compromised) and just nominate new moderators to more heavily monitor posts.

There is a lot of good information in the sections that are on the proposed cut list. Deleting them would simply be a step backward- throwing in the towel instead of trying to win..

This all makes sense to me right now as I just smoked some delicious LVPK(mwahahahahaahahha).... does it make sense to you?


Any other ideas?

no need to be negative in this thread.. I am respectfully proposing an idea, how about you guys respectfully propose yours?

:thank you:

:ying:

LW
 

humble1

crazaer at overgrow 2.0
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Sure.
I'll be a volunteer moderator!
Honestly I was wondering how long Gypsy et al would take before they had enough. But where is the line for spam and genuine interest in serving medical patients in medical states? Most of the dispensaries I've been to, with one shining exception, are much more interested in the turn of a dollar than helping out patients in need. Should dispensaries be exempt from what could otherwise be called spam? It's a very fuzzy grey area and I think Gypsy did what most people do when confronted with grey fuzzies: Bust out the disinfectant and clean house.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful and contribute a new idea to the fray, just voicing my opinion.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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I wonder how many would actually put themselves in the owner's shoes and honestly admit they'd finance free, non-entity sales on their web-service? I can see a bit of philanthropy, especially if business is good. But those types of overhead are usually budgeted and the bottom line dictates...

In other words, peeps should remember that money talks. If it weren't illegal in so many cases, I could see an IC forum that charged non-advertised sales/trades a user fee. But this doesn't address the potential setup with leo and/or criminals.
 

Lone Wolf

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I could see an IC forum that charged non-advertised sales/trades a user fee.

it really does not seem so far away... {for atleast SOME online forum to do it - not now, but within the near future.... if there are websites that link people with buds up and make money off of it, why couldn't the gyp meister pull it off as well? I know he is wise and waiting for the calm after the storm, but the storm is quickly a passin!}
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Lone Wolf, you're a business owner. You've not only got your dream to accomplish, the bottom line is math. No image nor goodwill pays the bills. When the till is dry you reach into your pocket to pay for anything the business consumes, threatening the corporation, your personal stability in addition to your employees welfare. Not to mention that many of your customers consider you the best of the best and wouldn't want your service to go away due to poor business management.

But a few customers want you to keep paying for a service that doesn't generate a profit. In fact, it's a significant liability. In addition, this service not only jeopardizes profits, the nature of the business could threaten customer safety.

You've operated your profit centers efficiently enough to maintain the business. But your free service to customers often forces you to pay for any expenditures that advertising sales miss. Then you decide to pull the plug, not on the costly service to all but the few who are profiting off your dime. It's difficult to alienate any business friendships you've developed along the way. But this is a business and the bottom line is a necessary element before quality and customer satisfaction can be maintained.

A few of these folks say you shouldn't concern yourself when they get in trouble for overt associations with the potential bad element. Then you risk your forum being the vehicle for discussing these troubles, further risking normal operations and necessary profits to maintain. You'll never get past the word "profit" and the idea you're always rolling in dough. For all you know, last year's profits may or may not have covered costs. The idea you're lighting every spliff with a 20 spot and injuring yourself when falling off your wallet isn't necessarily reality.

And then you've got the few who just won't accept the fact you don't have enough riches to continue a free gravy train for the few, (a lesser few willing to skirt your terms of use.) Do they actually realize you'd have to allow everybody to get away with same conduct? Or do they expect special treatment? Under these circumstances, do they even deserve any consideration?

When explanations of safety, fairness and overall efficiency fail to quell repeated complaints, when do you get the epiphany that some of these folks care nothing about running a business and some care nothing about you? It probably waters down any accusations that you're greedy or should risk bad business practices for others' personal benefit. Business is a mutual benefit or it's not. Do you placate the problems or do you risk stability and possibly going outta business?
 
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if there are too many people/posts, and not enough volunteer moderators, perhaps the content of the site could be moderated easier with the addition of more moderators, with limited abilities of course. I say this because if there are too many SPAM postings for the current staff to keep up with, it would make greater sense to not erase the features/forum topics/groups (in an attempt to stop profits/security from being compromised) and just nominate new moderators to more heavily monitor posts.

...

Users could just be more diligent about using the 'report post' feature, rather than adding more mods. This would help the mods identify more problematic posts, and perhaps prevent the need for more drastic measures.
 

Lone Wolf

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Lone Wolf, you're a business owner. You've not only got your dream to accomplish, the bottom line is math. No image nor goodwill pays the bills. When the till is dry you reach into your pocket to pay for anything the business consumes, threatening the corporation, your personal stability in addition to your employees welfare. Not to mention that many of your customers consider you the best of the best and wouldn't want your service to go away due to poor business management.

But a few customers want you to keep paying for a service that doesn't generate a profit. In fact, it's a significant liability. In addition, this service not only jeopardizes profits, the nature of the business could threaten customer safety.

You've operated your profit centers efficiently enough to maintain the business. But your free service to customers often forces you to pay for any expenditures that advertising sales miss. Then you decide to pull the plug, not on the costly service to all but the few who are profiting off your dime. It's difficult to alienate any business friendships you've developed along the way. But this is a business and the bottom line is a necessary element before quality and customer satisfaction can be maintained.

A few of these folks say you shouldn't concern yourself when they get in trouble for overt associations with the potential bad element. Then you risk your forum being the vehicle for discussing these troubles, further risking normal operations and necessary profits to maintain. You'll never get past the word "profit" and the idea you're always rolling in dough. For all you know, last year's profits may or may not have covered costs. The idea you're lighting every spliff with a 20 spot and injuring yourself when falling off your wallet isn't necessarily reality.

And then you've got the few who just won't accept the fact you don't have enough riches to continue a free gravy train for the few, (a lesser few willing to skirt your terms of use.) Do they actually realize you'd have to allow everybody to get away with same conduct? Or do they expect special treatment? Under these circumstances, do they even deserve any consideration?

When explanations of safety, fairness and overall efficiency fail to quell repeated complaints, when do you get the epiphany that some of these folks care nothing about running a business and some care nothing about you? It probably waters down any accusations that you're greedy or should risk bad business practices for others' personal benefit. Business is a mutual benefit or it's not. Do you placate the problems or do you risk stability and possibly going outta business?

roger that...


I'd like to hear what ADMIN has to say... i'd REALLY love to hear what GYPSY has to say...
 

Lone Wolf

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i think maybe the dispensary review section should be examined a bit more... dispensaries should not get free rides here... ESPECIALLY since people go there to get their genetics versus buying them off of seedbay or seedbou which gypsy would prefer..
 

DocLeaf

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The "industry" has been stagnant for 12 months or more (more). 2008 was the last "vintage year" ... after-which things got kindda flat,, but ppl are working on it! It's like the back-log in Chinese stock,, everyone's gonna have to make do with what's there for a few years yet,,until any innovation returns!

Btw,, you heard that here first.. even if it's old news now we said it :D
 

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