morning bro, ...do you remember my recommending a dome for the first couple of days back in Sept.?
Peace, SOG
Peace, SOG
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I do appreciate all your comments....
But the circumstances are different...
Back in september I was mucking with using coco....
Now Im looking a taking much larger clones than I had ever taken before....
Because they are large they wilt....
Just part of the equation....
They benefit of the larger clones outweighs the bother of a dome....
but I still dont do much but remove it after 2 days....
I can live with that.....
But the circumstances are different...
Back in september I was mucking with using coco....
Now Im looking a taking much larger clones than I had ever taken before....
Because they are large they wilt....
Just part of the equation....
They benefit of the larger clones outweighs the bother of a dome....
but I still dont do much but remove it after 2 days....
I can live with that.....
goshbongit
Member
This is a great thread. Some really good ideas!
Burnt , how big are the clones your talkin about ? i've been taking larger clones myself & putting them in the cloner with no wilt at all .
never mind ... i found it in post 733 & 734
here you can see how much bigger than i usually take them .
the clones in the middle tray are actually branches that i cut down to fit in the cloner without hitting the light or they'd probably be taller
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Has anybody tried to reuse the vermiculite from the cloner or do ya all just throw it away ? i have a 2 gallon bucket full of used vermic from the cloners
mostly from unused plugs , never used any cloning gel or anything ... just tap water & occasionally some peroxide .
mostly from unused plugs , never used any cloning gel or anything ... just tap water & occasionally some peroxide .
Dansbuds... My policy is that only new vermiculite is used for the clones....
However thats probably due at least as much to being superstitious as much as having some scientific basis....
I can guarantee you one thing.... if you continue taking larger and larger clones....
eventually you find they will wilt....
Ive been playing with clones as large as 12 inches above the soil....
However Ive settled in to 6-8 inch clones for reasons not due to the successful rooting of the clones....
Larger clones are the way to go....
With those larger cuttings I have taken to putting the cloner in a plastic bag for 48 hours....
after they are removed they have not wilted at all.... even though they wilted as they were being introduced to the cloner.....
However thats probably due at least as much to being superstitious as much as having some scientific basis....
I can guarantee you one thing.... if you continue taking larger and larger clones....
eventually you find they will wilt....
Ive been playing with clones as large as 12 inches above the soil....
However Ive settled in to 6-8 inch clones for reasons not due to the successful rooting of the clones....
Larger clones are the way to go....
With those larger cuttings I have taken to putting the cloner in a plastic bag for 48 hours....
after they are removed they have not wilted at all.... even though they wilted as they were being introduced to the cloner.....
Recently I changed my grow room around and my cloning area was effected negatively....
My old setup used 2 shelves with floros and my cloner was on the upper shelf.....and the lower shelf and lights provided warmth....
I reduced to one shelf so Im not getting my bottom heat anymore.... I had to allow extra time for rooting...
I had tried one of those seed tray heat mats and couldnt get it up to like 82-83 degrees....
I was in the big city yesterday and picked up what I think is the perfect source to provide bottom hear for your clones....
Its called repti-therm....
I put it next to a chilly window and put a thermometer on the mat.... the one I bought is about 5 inches square.... about 25 bucks.... a little pricey.... at petsmart.....
It reads about 90 degrees....
I also cut down ice tray to fit....it has 18 rather than the 27 tubes originally.....
Im expecting that I can put my cloner right on the thing....
Once I do a couple cycles with it....Ill report back.....
90 degrees would in fact be too warm....
however the mat is about 2 inches worth of vermiculite away....
Gut feeling this should work quite well....
My old setup used 2 shelves with floros and my cloner was on the upper shelf.....and the lower shelf and lights provided warmth....
I reduced to one shelf so Im not getting my bottom heat anymore.... I had to allow extra time for rooting...
I had tried one of those seed tray heat mats and couldnt get it up to like 82-83 degrees....
I was in the big city yesterday and picked up what I think is the perfect source to provide bottom hear for your clones....
Its called repti-therm....
I put it next to a chilly window and put a thermometer on the mat.... the one I bought is about 5 inches square.... about 25 bucks.... a little pricey.... at petsmart.....
It reads about 90 degrees....
I also cut down ice tray to fit....it has 18 rather than the 27 tubes originally.....
Im expecting that I can put my cloner right on the thing....
Once I do a couple cycles with it....Ill report back.....
90 degrees would in fact be too warm....
however the mat is about 2 inches worth of vermiculite away....
Gut feeling this should work quite well....
Nice thread.
the short answer is yes although the further along they are the greater the failure rate, more than 2 or 3 weeks in and it's almost not worth the effort.
peace, SOG
IM with my friend sog....
You can try to clone the plant.....
if that doesnt work.....plan to reveg the plant.....
If you like it that much.....
I would recommend picking most of the flowering material.... but leaving quite a few large leaves....
when the plant begins to produce normal 3 fingered leaves cut out as much of the older growth as possible....
once the leaves hit 5 fingers.... take some clones.....
once they root you can either reflower....or discard the mom.....
You can try to clone the plant.....
if that doesnt work.....plan to reveg the plant.....
If you like it that much.....
I would recommend picking most of the flowering material.... but leaving quite a few large leaves....
when the plant begins to produce normal 3 fingered leaves cut out as much of the older growth as possible....
once the leaves hit 5 fingers.... take some clones.....
once they root you can either reflower....or discard the mom.....
This is my first time cloning and i must say this is as simple as it gets. I had a 100% success rate using HTG cloning powder. 4 23 watt 6500k CFl bulbs. I was worried because i took my clones from a plant that was in flower. No worries no problems. Only success. Thanks for the idea. To remove plugs i used two double A batteries and pushed from the bottom. No root damage.
mornin' man, if you want to get fancy you can drill a small hole in a penny and screw it to a piece of dowel to make a ramrod that fit's like a glove.
peace, SOG
TexMex McDirt
Active member
I have been working on setting up a perpetual micro SOG for about a year. Taking my time, getting things to work. The one thing I just could not get to work was cloning with any sort of consistent results. I was getting maybe 10% success using various methods. My main problem seemed always to be stem rot. Then I found this thread. I went to REI and got the ice tube tray (I cut it into 3 separate trays with 9 tubes each). I went to Lowes and got some of the Sta-Green fine grade vermiculite. I cut some clones, I set things up as described in this thread. I just pulled the clones out tonight after 10 days. And I had 100% success. I'm not talking about a couple of roots on each clone, but really nice cluster of roots on each clone. I really want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. My perpetual micro SOG is born today!!!
Happy farming! Stay safe. Peace y'all.
Happy farming! Stay safe. Peace y'all.
You will find that if you get the environment right..... cloning is quite easy.....
Just a couple areas to make sure you are going the right way...
Temps over 80 degrees....
make sure the vermiculite is packed tight into the tubes.... its a better wick than if its loose.... Its the same reason fine vermiculite is used.... less airspace.... better wicking....
Im glad you found a method that works for you.....
this could have been posted already but I dont think Walmart sells this ice cube tray any
ore I couldn't find it at my local store
ore I couldn't find it at my local store
TexMex McDirt
Active member
I got mine at a local REI store, REI also has them online to order. Just google "ice tube tray", lots of places online to get them.
