IC420Cup2024 - Lets Get The Ball Rolling thread

[dimodz]

Here we go again

want to let all the IC community know, the IC 420 Cup will be taking place in Barcelona again this year. from the 16th of April till the evening of the 20th of April 2024. We hope to have judge packs ready on the 16th already to give people as much time as possible to do the judging.





as always, the cup will follow the rules about blind judging and open voting. the details will be posted up as they are finalized.





this is basically a heads up to get your entries sorted





Last time was great, we had more entries then ever over all, so lets hope for another great one this time round.



this years IC 420 Cup, will be in Spain, Barcelona



we are now accepting entry registrations



you can enter the cup in the following categories:



Cannabis Social Clubs: Club Flowers



Grower: mostly INDICA



Grower: mostly SATIVA



Breeder: mostly INDICA



Breeder: mostly SATIVA



Grower means a grower who doesn't sell seeds and isn't a cannabis club



Breeder means seed companies, aspiring and professional



to enter the cannabis categories you need 35g of flowers, prepacked into 1g bags if possible. (this lets you make each sample look nice)





Hash: 7.5g entry amount, prepacked into 25x0.3g bags



OIL/BHO: 5g entry amount, prepacked into 25x0.2g bags



Rosin: 5g entry amount, prepacked into 25x0.2g bags







entries must be on site by the 14th of April latest, we look forward to having you on board for another wild year .





Cannabis Clubs have a 100€ participation fee. other categories are free to enter. No limit to the number of entries.





for details about the Rules and exact entering conditions:

IC 420 Rules & Entering conditions

IC 420 Cup Rules Face Photos are not allowed. Participants can enter as: - Breeder - Grower, or - Club (Clubs in Barcelona only) Breeder means anyone who has a seed making/selling company or is a vendor on icmag. Grower means everyone else who might wish to enter. Categories: - indica...

www.icmag.com

look forward to a great competition and may the best grower, hash maker and extraction specialist win





some threads about previous years events can be found here:

Cannabis Infirmary

Post your pics of sick or ill plants for diagnosis or questions from expert growers.

www.icmag.com

any questions, just pm me

 

[dimodz]

we thinking maybe to change BHO to edbiles categorie .,?



how are your think about it ....

 

[ojd]

Can we not have both ? , I'd say BHO over edibles maybe as edibles can be hard to judge next to each other in such a short time , plus some really good bho specialist in the game these days would be a shame to miss out trying some of the best in Europe/World

 

[HortiLab]

Can we not have both ? , I'd say BHO over edibles maybe as edibles can be hard to judge next to each other in such a short time , plus some really good bho specialist in the game these days would be a shame to miss out trying some of the best in Europe/World

^^100%

 

[Birminghamsukfinest]

Shit I'm in dam on these dates, would of loved to of been a judge,

 

[Piecho]

Do we want to divide the hash to dry sift and ice hash?

There is also space for destilates/pens. Not huge fan myself, but maybe you do have different opinions.

Happy to test any extracts and edibles myself, matter of planning. 4 days is tight schedule.

More when I think about that, why do we limit it to 4 days? Couldn't we split the categories to start judging couple days earlier?

 

[Speula]

we thinking maybe to change BHO to edbiles categorie .,?



how are your think about it ....

Last year we could barely get 3 BHO entries, and in the end there were a lot of leftover packs also. so a change to edibles would offer our members a new judging experience.

Maybe we can do a poll or something ..

 

[Speula]

Do we want to divide the hash to dry sift and ice hash?

There is also space for destilates/pens. Not huge fan myself, but maybe you do have different opinions.

Happy to test any extracts and edibles myself, matter of planning. 4 days is tight schedule.

More when I think about that, why do we limit it to 4 days? Couldn't we split the categories to start judging couple days earlier?

Keep in mind, not everybody is „forced“ to judge all packs. Last year a lot of people more less took advantage by getting several packs as a cheap smoke for themselves. Won’t happen this year, since a lot of the persons didn’t even put in there votes, which was really unfair to all competitors who worked hard for winning the cup.

If we skip BHO , don’t make sense to add a vapepen/destillate category in that case.

 

[Piecho]

I am personally more interested into solvents methods myself. Not sure how large impact we do have, but promoting ice hash or press flower/hash sounds better to me than BHO.

Giving more time for judging the edibles however makes sense to me, but that's just my point of view.

 

[chilliwilli]

I don't think that edibles can be judged in 4 days maybe if there are only 4 entries.
How should anyone know if its the edibles last eaten and not the before that are now kicking in.

 

[chilliwilli]

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[Piff Rhys Jones]

I agree edibles would be tricky to judge if more than 4 entries as often can have lasting effects.

Maybe skip BHO altogether?

Peace

 

[chilliwilli]

Also growers should be growers and not breeders that fly under the radar.

Sorry got this wrong. Looks like i was too stoned at the award ceremony.

 

[Rocket Soul]

Subbing

 

[Piecho]

Just by curiosity, I checked the idea of measuring the terpens. Looks like we would need some lab running HPLC Chromatography tests. Portable HPLC machine costs thousands of Euros, not the budget yet : )

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

Just by curiosity, I checked the idea of measuring the terpens. Looks like we would need some lab running HPLC Chromatography tests. Portable HPLC machine costs thousands of Euros, not the budget yet : )

One’s palate is a great device for terpene measurement, and it’s free.

Peace

 

[Piecho]

Yeep, but I do like to having science background when it's possible : D

 

[mm4n]

-from the offtopic of the other thread-

I see two main problems with Cannabis Cup's category:
If you classify a strain between two effects (mental/physical) you lose the entourage effect and the mixed effects like hilarious-couchlock.
On the other hand, if a strain is classified by a few aromatic families (e.g. citrus, earthy, floral, etc.) you lose the mixed nuances of modern polyhybrids.
And having a THC or tepene test might be helpful, but it would remain generic and inconclusive as much as judging a dish or wine by a lab test.


I went to a wine shop to ask how they order the wines for sale; here they are classified by "body", a set of characteristics such as density, color, aroma, and alcohol, that are often related to each other (from a light white sparkling to “liqueur” strong reds).
Is it possible to do the same with cannabis?

For example, if I describe to some friends the "body" of a strain such as "champagne" they immediately understand what I mean: light smoke (regardless of THC percentage), aromas from mild floral-citric to strong hops-gas, and rarely purple flowers. Tending to psychedelic-tachycardic effect.
(... where a Sherb-cross would probably be considered a good "red wine" and some Tangie-cross a "rosé wine")

But these terms probably don't make sense for the rest of the world . Any ideas?

 

[Piecho]

I get nerdy last evening. I like the classification these guys proposed

I messaged the company for the current records they managed to collect, but not sure it they are willing to share the knowledge tbh.

Still, that does require measuring of the terpens, which we probably will not have access this year. But It could be useful tool just for your curiosity, if expected aromas in the strain listed by breeder do match the lab results at all or are from another planet.

There is one project that collects some open results from the lab, you can use it here https://maxvalue.github.io/Terpene-...ed&lab=Miscellaneous&lab=PSI+Labs&lab=SC+Labs

I do have also couple of papers to read that focus of the problem with cannabis classification. I will update you guys if managed to find anything helpful for us.

 

[GMT]

35g of gear is £250 equivalent price to enter, then it has to somehow get smuggled across several borders. Steep penalties if caught. What are the prizes going to be to make that worth it? Somehow, bragging rights don't seem enough.