I want to grow 5 plants under one 1k light. How would you do it?

[wegobigupnorth]

Hello00 brothers and sister of IC mag

I have a question for this lovely community. Right now, I can only legally grow 5 plants which really does suck for me as I am a very experienced outdoor grower but almost zero experience growing indoors soo I am not experienced enough to grow the "indoor tree's" I see on here where they grow massive plants that yield 2 pounds each and are surronded by vertical lighting...

I WISH i could just do a nice S.O.G for my first run but I can't so I just want to use one light (1000W) for flower and 5 plants in soil. most likely going to use smart pots.


My questions are:

How long would you veg?

What size pots would you use?

What medium?

Should I get a grow tent? I have a decent size spare room. I like the tents but it seems like they might be harder to keep cool then just using the room?

Add anything you like, any input is welcome! Thanks so much everyone. MUCH LOVE!

 

[floralheart]

You know, right now I have 5 plants, 10 gallon containers, vegged 4-7 weeks, under 900 watt LED, (3) 300 watt fixtures, straight Pro Mix HP, 30" tall, 42" with the containers, purchased topped from dispensary, topped and LST more by me to space it more like a tree.

Picture is worth 1,000 words, but my camera is across town.

 

[floralheart]

My 1,000 HPS, when running is mounted on a 7' basement ceiling. When the plants are at the ready height to handle the light, they sit on the floor or a milk crate for perimeter plants. That's after rooting up, growing in a beer cup for 2 weeks, growing under (3) 4' 2 bulb flouros for 4 weeks in 7 gallon buckets. The big light handles 6 full grown trees or (16) 5 gallon buckets.

You need a fan & filter combo with that 1,000 to handle heat, unless it's winter in a New York basement. And, evaporate the chlorine from your city water for 12 hours, if that's the case.

Good water, good genetics and veganics. Bio Bizz products are great. Molasses is great. Epsom salt is handy.

 

[wegobigupnorth]

Hey brother, respect for your input!

I should have elaborated, I am an outdoor grower with no much personal experience indoors but I have been always been around indoor grows and know a lot about it in general...I am very well aware that I need a fan and filter. I actually already have most of the equipment lying around that has been gifted to me over the years. Still have lots of shopping to do but anyway

I know my post sounded very basic but I am really just looking at opinions on the best way to grow 5 plants under one 1000W light. I do NOT mean I am going to use that one light for everything brother...I already have a nice mother and clone room all lite up nice with T5's I will get pictures up soon. I am very well experienced with vegging and cloning plants indoors as I always started my outdoor seeds and clones indoors and I am very close friends with electricians and HVAC people who currently work on some of the largest legal production facilities in my province. Sorry if that sounded cocky as I am not trying to sound it. Just trying to let you know I got more then basic knowledge of this.

Thanks again!

 

[wegobigupnorth]

By "best" way to grow 5 plants under 1K I mean best yield and most efficient. Once I am more experienced I want to get into the DWC trees I see and use vertical lighting but no way am I experienced enough for that...

I HAVE seen people using a single 1K vertically and surrond a few plants in soil around it and it looks like a great, effiecient method. Do you think I should look into that? I would prefer just to keep it horizontal but I am open to all suggestions...

 

[wegobigupnorth]

bump.....Sorry to bump but usually I get so much help from all you guys

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

I'd grow 3x4 plants horizontally in 10 l pots with 1 months veg under 1 k.

 

[hush]

5 gallon hempy buckets, LST, veg for at least a month. I got just over a pound from this grow:

 

[Photosynthesis]

Just make a 4'x4'x18" soil bed, and plant your 5 plants in it. I would use a screen, and veg for a month and a half or so. You should get good returns on this.

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

Just make a 4'x4'x18" soil bed, and plant your 5 plants in it. I would use a screen, and veg for a month and a half or so. You should get good returns on this.

yes!

 

[FlowerFarmer]

My vote is for vertical donut.

Drop a 1000w hps lamp down vertical with a small fan on the floor blowing up at it. Do a circle of 5 plants around the lamp.

I personally would 2-3 gallon Smart Pots filled with straight coco. 2 Gal w/ blumats or multi-feeds per day or 3 gallon if handwatering.


How you keep the plants out of the light is up to you. Some do a cylindrical cage around the lamp to either prevent the plant from leaning in.. or larger diameter cage and tie your plants back into it. Others get away with bamboo stakes or other means.


Easy way to get large yields with minimal equipment/investment. I always yielded poorly with overhead horizontal lighting. Started hitting 1.7lb/light easily and improving when playing with donuts.

Here you can see a slightly larger diameter cage.. 40" or so diameter. Plants are allowed to stretch through.. and are then tied/pinned back to the cage using Christmas ornament hooks.

Had some issues with lockout/nuteburn, but the canopy turned out pretty good.. if not a smidge over-vegged.

The benefits of this method obviously is 360 degree of canopy space around the lamp equaling more square footage, but are surprisingly a lot easier to keep cool. No large reflector to trap and radiate heat towards your plants. The hot air rises out of the donut and is extracted from the room via an inline fan. Shocking how close you can keep a bare bulb 1k. You'll see the effects of photoinhibition before you actually have heat related stress.


*screw the tents in my opinion. Much easier to just work in the room. Tents have always been a hassle for me.
*this method does take up a bit more space as opposed to a 1000w light over a 4x4 or 5x5 square.

 

[stoned-trout]

I would use 5 gal minimum per plant and veg and train till even full canopy.then flower...real simple..yeehaw

 

[wegobigupnorth]

WOW! Respect to you all for such great input!

I fucking LOVE that vertical doughnut idea FlowerFarmer. That is exactly what I was thinking of doing and I think I will do that my first round. I won't have to spend jack shit!

I also like the idea of a soil bed, I was really floating that idea around too. I want to see how this vertical donut idea works first I think though. Please keep the posts coming!

 

[Photosynthesis]

WOW! Respect to you all for such great input!

I fucking LOVE that vertical doughnut idea FlowerFarmer. That is exactly what I was thinking of doing and I think I will do that my first round. I won't have to spend jack shit!

I also like the idea of a soil bed, I was really floating that idea around too. I want to see how this vertical donut idea works first I think though. Please keep the posts coming!

Keep in mind there is a learning curve with a donut style grow. So on the first one be prepared to learn a lot. They do yield very well once you get it down though. It was a great suggestion.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Yea. Takes a bit of knowing your strain and how much it stretches after the flip.

My 1st attempts I didn't use any cage and really didn't have a wall of bud around my lamps. These plants didn't stretch as much as I anticipated (which was good due to my lack of support for them).

I was getting around 1.4lb per 1k light with this. More plants around each light here though.

I have a buddy to this day still running "minis" in a circle around a vertical bare bulb. Dead simple setup.. still gets 2lb per light although each circle's backside is hit by another 600w MH that hang in the crevices between circles.

Training around a cage will get you a better return, but not to say it's mandatory. This was still a decent crop below with minimal work. Flip early when unsure of the stretch and strip the backsides of the plants and you should do fine. The lower branches which ultimately reach up to form the side colas (bulb facing) of your plant end up being your majors.

 

[wegobigupnorth]

Your the man FlowerFarmer. I can't believe the amount of help I receive from all you guys on here. Cannabis growers are really the nicest people.

I plan on using a cage for sure. I want to dial it in as quick as possible.

For cooling the room I plan to have the same type of fan blowing up at the light and then I have a 6 inch exhaust fan which I will use to vent the hot air out of the room and outside.

The room is perfect for venting out the window. Top floor of an apartment building corner unit. Only one neighbor on my side and he is VERY far away from the window and cannot see it at all. The hot air will go right out the window and since I am up so high on the top floor it is rreallly, really fucking windy so that hot air will be GONE in a puff. Plus there is no roof access so no way anyone above could notice either

I suppose someone with binoculars could see the small ducting hole where the hot air is being expelled from the window but I doubt it...Now that it is warmer its not like it will look like steam coming out the window.