I think I burned my plants bad

[larry badiner]

How long has this problem been going on? 2 weeks
What STRAIN are you growing? blue mystic
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 3 weeks into flowering
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 2 months
How Tall are the plants? about 3 feet tall
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) fim
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 3 gal
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) black gold soil
What Nutrient's are you using? fox farm 3 pack with open sesame, beastie bloomz, etc
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* ~1-2 tsp per gallon
How often are you feeding? once a week
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? first day of flower
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) veg, bloom, suppliment
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? dunno
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? 6.5
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? ph dropper
How often are you watering? once a week
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? last monday, once a week
What size bulb are you using? 400hps
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? medium
Is your water HARD or SOFT? hard
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? np
Are plant's infected with pest's? small infestation of fungus gnats

It's been a while since I've grown, at first my blue mystic plants started showing signs of magnesium deficiency so i added magical to a watering. Also on this plant when the buds were really starting to explode I added another feeding. I didnt check on my plants in about two days and I found these




sorry for the crappy pics, i took them on my phone. After i found out my plants were fucked i flushed them out with about 8 gallons of water ph''d to 6, but the leaves are still drying up and dying. Theres new bud growth but its slow, will my buds be stunted by the nute burn? Is there anything i can do now?

 

[MynameStitch]

Were you using 1-2 tsp per nutrient?

Yes, they are most definatly burned; how much water did you flush them with?
Don't listen to the directions on the nutes you are using, they are way over kill, I used fox farms stuff and it's good, but too strong and must be toned down, you go by the size of your plants not the directions on the nutrients you are using right now.

Old leaves affected won't recover so you need to make sure it's not spreading to leaves that were not affected.....

How much nutes are you using now and how often?

 

[larry badiner]

Were you using 1-2 tsp per nutrient?

Yes, they are most definatly burned; how much water did you flush them with?
Don't listen to the directions on the nutes you are using, they are way over kill, I used fox farms stuff and it's good, but too strong and must be toned down, you go by the size of your plants not the directions on the nutrients you are using right now.

Old leaves affected won't recover so you need to make sure it's not spreading to leaves that were not affected.....

How much nutes are you using now and how often?

Hey stich thanks for the reply man, I flushed with about 8 gallons of water. I used 2 tsp of grow big, two tsp of tiger bloom and a tablespoon of big bloom with a 1/2 tsp of beastie bloomz, then after a day or so I gave it another dose. I have another blue mystic plant right next to it and its growing fine. I didn't double feed this one, its growing slow but I read blue mystic is slow in flowering and picky on nutes.

I'm pretty sure new growth is still affected, I wont be able to be sure until tomorrow. If leaves are still dying off, what do i do? I was supposed to feed that particular plant today but I'm thinking about either giving it water tomorrow or just not feed it

heres my nute schedule http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf I'm on week 9

 

[JamieShoes]

you're in the best possible hands with Stitch (I can't thank you enough for the sick plant guide btw) but until he replies, hold off on feeding. What I was told is "you don't feel much like eating when you're sick do you?" and that kinda made sense to me...


best of luck
j :smile:

 

[hempluvr]

Hey stich thanks for the reply man, I flushed with about 8 gallons of water. I used 2 tsp of grow big, two tsp of tiger bloom and a tablespoon of big bloom with a 1/2 tsp of beastie bloomz, then after a day or so I gave it another dose.

WOW,no wonder you burned them up. You mixed all of that together and fed it to the plants? That spells trouble. You need to flush the shit out of your plants asap and leave them be. Flush with a final flush solution. Get all of that crap out of the root area. Then leave them be. Your plants are 3 weeks into flowering they don`t need grow big. Grow big is for veg stage. It has higher levels of nitrogen which promotes green leafy growth,not buds. Tiger Bloom and beastie blooms is what they need. Not mixed together either. Ignore the comment made about not following instructions on the back of the label. Yes there are some strains that can take higher levels of nutes but not all plants are the same. You need to feed your plants and watch them...
if they demand more then give them more. If less then less. If you are giving
higher levels of nutes then you need to flush more often. When flushing are you getting samples of the run-off? That would tell you how bad it is in there.
During the flowering stage the plants need higher levels of p&k not nitrogen. You could feed your plants nothing but beastie bloomz and they would be ok.
Yes the leaves would yellow from lack of N but the plants will not die,that is infact good(yellowing of leaves) I advise you to leech your medium if you have not already,then leave them alone for a couple days. Remove leaves with over 50% damage to them. This will open up more light for buds. Give the plants a couple days to recover and give them a light dose of beastie bloomz. DO follow the instructions on the back of the label..beastie is 0-50-30 and it is REALLY easy to burn plants if given to much. Stick to just
one of those and you will be ok. Not all liquid plant food is like general hydroponics where it needs to be combined with something else. Grow big is for vegetative growth,tiger bloom and beastie bloomz are for flowering.

 

[B.C.]

EEEK! Yep, ya burnt em. I'd jus give water the next time. Then after that I would give em some Big Bloom. BB will -gently- baby them back to health and help recondition the soil. Ferget about FoxFarms feedin schedule, and no more Grow Big! I wouldn't use Bestie Bloom either, it's too strong for the microherd and will overdose it..... I would jus feed em BB till ya see signs of them starting ta grow again then start back with the Tiger Bloom again....... Like Hempluvr has mentioned, watch them, and learn ta read them. They'll tell ya what they want, when they want it. It's the best advise I can give anyone..... Anyhoo, Look at it like this, it's not a mistake if ya learn from it. Please keep us posted so others may learn from it as well...... Good luck man! Take care... BC

 

[larry badiner]

I checked my plants today and it looks like the leaf decay stopped, I'm just going to feed that one water this week and continue feeding it the week after since I still see new calyx's forming

 

[MynameStitch]

Thanks jamieshoes, that was very nice of you

You need to keep one bloom fert. use 1/2 teaspoon of grow big and use ONE bloom fert and you can rotate by using one bloom fert one week and different the next... like a booster; but right now I would just worry about getting your plants back on track.

You should have them flushed good now with 8 gallons of water now!
Remember when you flushed you also rinsed out nutes that was there so your plants can recover more quickly now since the burn was so bad

Just use 1 grow fert and one bloom fert let me know which one you want to use so I can give you a correct dosage to use.

 

[hempluvr]

Have patience and know that it might take a week or so for them to start pushing out new growth. This mistake will also cause your plants to finish later then u may have planned. No worries though man,we have all messed up,there is nobody in the world who has grown out our favorite plant and not made mistakes. Hell,I overfed one of my plants last year and it took her at least 3 weeks to resume normal growth. Also caused the flowering to last an extra month from when she would have been done. Patience is the key. Good luck to ya man!

 

[larry badiner]

Thanks jamieshoes, that was very nice of you

You need to keep one bloom fert. use 1/2 teaspoon of grow big and use ONE bloom fert and you can rotate by using one bloom fert one week and different the next... like a booster; but right now I would just worry about getting your plants back on track.

You should have them flushed good now with 8 gallons of water now!
Remember when you flushed you also rinsed out nutes that was there so your plants can recover more quickly now since the burn was so bad

Just use 1 grow fert and one bloom fert let me know which one you want to use so I can give you a correct dosage to use.

I only use grow big during the 3rd and 4th week (I go by my grow schedule... heres a pdf -> html from google http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...pdf&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a I've used it on 3 successful grow so far)

This week I have 2tsp of tiger bloom, 1tbl of big bloom and 1/4-1/2 tsp of cha ching (this was last weeks feeding but I had to skip it because of the nute burn)

I'll post a picture tomorrow, but I cut off most of the dead leaves and things are looking good. The hairs are turning orange and I think they'll pack weight on in the next couple of weeks. The thing that sucks about this plant is I've been vegging it for two months and it flowered a week earlier then the plant next to it (which is turning out to be really frosty, I'll post pictures of that one too)

Also earlier today and I accidently gave my other blue mystic plant 1/2 tsp of open sesame (5-45-19) instead of cha ching (9-50-10), is it going to do anything bad?

open sesame description:
Fox Farm Open Sesame is a full spectrum blend of micronutrients specifically developed to trigger early flowering and ripening in fruits, buds, and flowers.

cha ching description:
Cha Ching improves the taste and aroma by concentrating the plant oils into the flower, fruit or vegetable. Use Cha Ching in your hydroponics systems or for plants potted in soil.

 

[MynameStitch]

were you growing the same strain as you were before now?

That is some high nutes you got there, not all strains can take in the same amount, that is why you go by the size of the plant and not a feeding chart, unless you are using cannabis nutes; then it's a whole different story.